thats not what i said at all. I never mentioned any tracks did I? Experience is usually associated with time doing things, for instance I have 8 years of experince at my job. I'm good at what I do and have been for a while. On the other hand there are people who have been here longer than me who suck I constantly have to fix their problems or answer their questions.
So what I mean is there are people who have been driving for 20 yrs and their cars have been hit more than a toilet seat by their own fault, and their are persons who have been driving for say 1 year who haven't had a single accident, and are good drivers.

 

And where did this education thing come from. I never said anything about giving up your education for a car. Did I miss the post that said what you rather have a college education or an STI. and if it was posted i never said take the STI screw college (even though I'm close to 6 figures w/o it)
I also never said that one particular car would make all your dreams come true. But this is a forum based on a Car.
And like I said before if the parents said here calmdip take the keys to your new 35k$ car I seriously doubt you would turn them down. I'm real sure you would be guilt stricken as you drove off.

 

Forget the STi. Punks are wrapping regular WRXs around trees at prodigious rates. Can't wait to see what happens when a few of them get their hands on STis.

In the 80s it was Mustang V8s. In the 90s it was 300ZX TTs and RX7s and the like. In the 00s it's the turbo Imprezas. Cheap + fast = whippersnappers buying them = whippersnappers crashing them = higher insurance rates for all cheap fast cars.

 

I'll agree with that (notice he never once mentioned education). But I think that young punk have been wrapping any cars around trees. but the other cars are given higher profiles. Insurance on a Honda civic is cheap even though they have been modded and wrapped quite handily. They just have the luxury of market saturation to thin the numbers out.

 

Well of course statistically speaking, young punks are more prone to wrap anything around a tree compared to the general population. However, the combination of cheap and fast is more inclined to draw young punks to that particular make/model by virtue of their speed and affordability (whereas more expensive and fast tends to draw the older lead-foots). Young punkery and quick cars are a volatile mix.

I checked with my insurance company a while ago and learned it would cost me less to insure a Corvette, an Audi S8 or a BMW M5. Why? Cuz it's primarily old coots who can afford these cars. (Even if young punks can afford older used Vettes, I guess they're not buying them in any significant numbers.) And I suppose old coots don't have as much lustre for ramming immovable objects and/or other cars, even if they're driving powerful machines.

Actuarial statistics is an interesting game.

 

lol...with the exception of the ones who can't stay awake at the wheel.

 

Some of the "older" (I would say more mature but that obviously doesn't apply) people here need to realize that some younger people are able to handle cars with a little bit of power. Although it's true that there are very immature 17-18 year old drivers out there, there are also a good amount of drivers just as stupid that aren't as young.

My first car was a "hand me down SUV", my second being a twin-turbo Supra, my third, a Honda S2000, and my fourth is going the be the WRX STI. I've never been in any at fault accidents and I have several friends with similar cars that are my peers. The WRX is an AWD car that is much safer to drive than one with RWD. I'm selling my car and getting the STI for practicality reasons as having a two seater isn't resourceful.

 

Uh, well, nobody accused you specifically. If the shoe fits, wear it. Otherwise, no need to get defensive over accusations that weren't leveled at you. And while your anecdotal stories are a relief to hear, the aggregate statistics paint a pretty clear picture of who's racking their cars and who isn't.

 

Brown with brown Interior and it talked. "please fasten your safety belt"....and so on. At first it was cool hey my car talks but after about 2 weeks I wanted the "man in the dashboard dead"

 

God I hated those talking cars...

"Your door is ajar..... Your door is ajar.... Your door is aj--"

SHADDAP! *WHAM!*

"Your foot is in the door speaker... your foot is in the door speaker..."

 

are you reading what I write or just trying to find things to pick apart. I said constantly helping wich is not a little it is constant, as in alot. I guess since I'm CONSTANTLY fixing their mess -ups, and they are CONSTANTlY asking me how to do things that its fair for me to "take for granted" I'm better at my job, or maybe my boss saying "your better than your peers, your going places" might be it also.
The work was an example of experience, not of how driving was just like working. It was meant to show how people can have experience doing things but not be good at it.
17 or 18 is young for someone that started their life but that doesnt mean they cant have a nice car. Like you said "anything can happen to you on the road" what is to say that a 17 -18 yr old is more or less irresponsible. Sure numbers show younger people having more accidents but that will ahppen weather they are driving a STI or a Accent.
And as far as the education goes ONCE AGAIN no one said give up college for a car. If you have children and you choose to send them to college instead of buying them a car then good for you, of course you could be wasting your money (ever look at attrition rates for college, people waste jusat as much money on education as they do on cars). But if i can afford to do both then why shouldn't I.
And AGAIN I never said any car would make all your dreams come true.

 

Get a scholarship to stanford, then buy the STi and get an education!