you are teh liar!
i own no stickers...
but that's cuz my hooptie is still stock...
and cuz nate didn't have any S2 in stock when i went by.

 

Looking through some vendor websites, Wired Speed Lab has an Invidia DP for $200 plus shipping. That is a really good price. Too bad I don't have the money for it.

*EDIT* its $200 shipped

 

So did Nate say he used what he figured out on my tune on yours as well? I used to get the power dip at 4k then power surge at 5k, but now its virtually seamless. There is still a slight delay around 4.5k but barely noticeable and probably only because now I'm so critical on whats goin gon with it.

And about my peak whp, that really isnt the highpoint of my tune. That combined with the hoses and pulley the driveability of the car is soooo nice! Lag is basically gone, I get full bost around 2.7-2.8k rpms and it is just smooth (even with the cat I have). I dont think the pulley added any whp but it really made the engine feel light and easy to rev. I have to be carefull when I floor it because I'll hit the rev limiter before I know it sometimes .

I'm curious as to how your motor feels with the P & P & valve job.

 

Before I had the uppipe and TBE put on, it felt like it had some more "oomph" up top. I would pull a car on my friends RSX that had intake, exhaust and race header. And that would be from a roll.

I haven't really romped through the gears and powerband yet. Just a burst every now and then. I'm still waiting for the ECU to learn.

Also Nate said that he did have to apply some new tricks and do some "weird" things to get me at that tune.

 

Here's probably a stupid question...does S^2 reprogram the ECU when they do a tune? What advantage/disadvantage is this over the AccessTuner? What price range is an S^2 tune going to be?

I have to take my Suby in for it's 30k checkup after 4K more miles, so a tune might be on the plate at that time.

 

Also, are dyno results in WHP or BHP? Is the standard 227 HP for a stock WRX in WHP or BHP?

 

They can use the Tuner just like they would use the ECUteck that they currently use. It's just a different tool to do the same thing.

 

If you are getting a retune of the ECU, then yet. If you mean just a mechanical 'tune up' then no, I doubt it.

The EcuTek and AccessPort debate has been beaten to death. But the major benefit is that you can get a professional who has tuned hundreds of cars and will be able to give you a custom tune. AccessPort gives you more flexability because you can load more maps onto your car, the only problem being that the maps are generic maps made by Cobb.

Now, if you are talking AccessPort + StreetTuner, then the cost of ECUtek is much lower and you'll still get a custom tune. ST will allow you, once you get home, the chance to change parameters if you are brave/skilled enough.

 

Dyno results are WHP as there is no real way to measure crank HP (brake hp) without pulling the motor out of the car. The 227 HP for the WRX is an estimated BHP measurement.

 

That's what a tune is. Reprograming your ECU to optimize the cars performance. As far as advantages, not many tuners that can use the AccessTuner plus I think you have to have the Accessport to use the AccessTuner so that itself would cost you more than a EcuTek would. I don't know if the AccessTuner has the issue like the UTEC does concerning the way the car performes in altitude changes.

 

The WRX has 227 at the crank (supposedly) and puts down between 150-155 whp on Nates Dyno (other dynos show anywhwere between 150-180whp)

As far as cost, I'm sure Aaron would gladly give you any information you need on that.

And yes the access tuner is sort of Cobbs answer to ECUTek, they both do virtually the same thing. They "reflash" the stock ECU with essentially a new program (the software is changed on the stock hardware).

 

Isn't the ECUtek $750? Because Tuner would only be a $400 upgrade if you alread have the AccessPort and $995 if you don't.

And you can switch between pre-tuned maps at home with the tuner without going back to the shop everytime right?

 

StreetTuner and ProTuner reflashes the ECU so it won't have the same problems as UTEC w/ altitude and weather changes.

 

ECUTek averages $650 for initial license and tune.

So if you went the route of the AT, you would spend $995 for the hardware, then you would probably have to pay a shop for dyno tuning time assuming you can find a shop that is up and running with the Cobb AT.

The other option is the Cobb Protuner that iirc is essentially like ECUTek, you pay a licensing fee at the shop performing the tune and you end up with a reflash. So you would ahve the one map in that case but if you added the the street tuner I think you may be able to switch maps, sort of like the delt dash for ECUTek?

 

Dammit, Killian beat me to it!

Hey Killian, can you please post your dyno graph. I want to see your "curves" .