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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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so you are applying "inquisition" from centuries ago, even thousands of years ago to today. you probably have never read the Bible but that method was used in the Old Testament. the New Testament, which is now, is totally different. i understand how society sees poeple that are calling themselves christians as a threat, so to say. the ones that are doing it wrong mess it up for everyone else and are not considered christians if gone by the book. there is one way of christianity and that has to be followed by the Bible. You do one thing wrong, you are not a christian, regardless of what you think. please feel free pm me about what you have to say about the issue of a non-christian calling himself a christian. the subject is too hard to keep a simple discussion on this forum. i know the derailment will commence shortly or the thread will be closed.

My bad didnt know there was an expiration date for stupidity..

Maybe you missed the whole africa and nothern ireland portion of my post.. how convient to you. My point is this, religion can be used as a tool for good or bad, it has had its good days and bad days for each segment or religion.

My point is that by blindly following (which a majority of the organized religious types do) any sort of orgnization, be it ****'s, christians, catholics, islamo facists,e tc, you are walking a fine line towards ill.

What is even worse then blind faith and following is that those who follow many of these religions choose the religions view of things over their own "rational thought". Meaning if i was to ask someone about their views on homosexual rights they could have said "yeah no big deal live and let live i say". Same person after their "re awakening" states "that is a sinful way of life they are going to hell"..

Group think at its finest.

GROUP THINK = BAD

ever read 1984?

The second you reliqnquish your indviduality in thought, identity, or any other form you lose your ability to relate to those who are different then yourself.

And i for one will fight to the death to save my ability to be an individual. Kicking peoples teeth in and all..

You can blab about how you can still be an individual all you want in XYZ chruch, but when it comes down to it you do LOSE some of that. AND WILLINGFULLY
Old May 13, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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thats exactly where this all got mixed up. initially i asked about christianity and thats what RussB posted about. i dont know why everyone else started to get the other denominations involved.
exactly. i made a comment that notch was curious about... he inquired in a non-confrontational manner to which i responded in kind.

soggy and dr3 are the ones that got all drama-queen on this isht.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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im not drama queening this one..



religion is a deeply INDIVIDUAL MATTER

i have distrust for those who have to look to others for guidance and "the way". Those sorts of people tend to be easily tricked or lead into a way of thinking and acting. And it is those very people that make up the majority of the world (hate to say it). It is also those people who can be lead to do things that normaly they wouldnt do under the guise of righteousness or faith.

IE suicide bombers, ethnic cleansing, etc etc etc...



Organized religion = bad
Individual self realization = good
Old May 13, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
My bad didnt know there was an expiration date for stupidity..

Maybe you missed the whole africa and nothern ireland portion of my post.. how convient to you. My point is this, religion can be used as a tool for good or bad, it has had its good days and bad days for each segment or religion.

My point is that by blindly following (which a majority of the organized religious types do) any sort of orgnization, be it ****'s, christians, catholics, islamo facists,e tc, you are walking a fine line towards ill.

What is even worse then blind faith and following is that those who follow many of these religions choose the religions view of things over their own "rational thought". Meaning if i was to ask someone about their views on homosexual rights they could have said "yeah no big deal live and let live i say". Same person after their "re awakening" states "that is a sinful way of life they are going to hell"..

Group think at its finest.

GROUP THINK = BAD

ever read 1984?

The second you reliqnquish your indviduality in thought, identity, or any other form you lose your ability to relate to those who are different then yourself.

And i for one will fight to the death to save my ability to be an individual. Kicking peoples teeth in and all..

You can blab about how you can still be an individual all you want in XYZ chruch, but when it comes down to it you do LOSE some of that. AND WILLINGFULLY
Back in the day, they didn't have mans laws like they do today. Yeah it was wrong but under whos eyes. 99% of people were christians and if there was one that was going against it out loud, they punished him. Once again, you can't apply old laws to new ones. It just doesn't make sense. It's like me saying that you have a african-american as a "slave". it used to be lawful until they changed it. so if you have one and consider yourself a law abiding citizen, that's BS. thats just a quick example and it may not be the best one, but its straight forward and simple to understand.

Saying that BLINDLY following christianity is not right. I don't know how other denominations have it, but thats not how it works with christianity. Every person has the right to learn about the religion and he/she accepts it willingly in return for their belief in salvation.
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
im not drama queening this one..



religion is a deeply INDIVIDUAL MATTER

i have distrust for those who have to look to others for guidance and "the way". Those sorts of people tend to be easily tricked or lead into a way of thinking and acting. And it is those very people that make up the majority of the world (hate to say it). It is also those people who can be lead to do things that normaly they wouldnt do under the guise of righteousness or faith.

IE suicide bombers, ethnic cleansing, etc etc etc...



Organized religion = bad
Individual self realization = good
the more i read your posts. most if not all of them are not based on christianity which is what i was asking RussB about.
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exactly my point about how religion had its place in society in the middle ages...



The church was the fill in for proper (or proper in todays terms) goverment. Im not applying old laws to new times, the church tries to do that every single ****ing day.

You are blindly following any faith if you have no evidence or data to support its claims.

Its called faith

Or as like to call it "Pride in your own ignorance"



Every person has the right to be as much of an *******, tool, dumbass, kunt, ****knocker, cockgobbler, duck raper as they would like.

So you throw out your individualty of thought for the "notion" that salvation in the christian form of the word is real. (with no evidence, proof, data, or anything to support its validaity) Normaly when think something is real it is because there is tangible data to suggest that it is in fact real. IE Atoms, the world being roun, water being made of certain atoms, etc etc etc.


Sounds like a killer deal man...


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Originally Posted by topnotchwrx
the more i read your posts. most if not all of them are not based on christianity which is what i was asking RussB about.

Im not singling any one faith out. I am addressing all of them, which i think they are ALL flagrantly past their useful lifes.

Mind you i still think some eastern based "views" hold true (i wouldnt call them religions as they lean more towards the individual interpration of things, instead of groupthink)

Those by their own nature and design will never be outdated. That is what makes them so interesting.

IE Taoism
Old May 13, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by soggynoodles
Please don't tell me you're a bible humper?
if thats for me, yes i am a christian. a baptist to be exact.
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Please don't tell me you're a bible humper?

haha who me?

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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
Im not singling any one faith out. I am addressing all of them, which i think they are ALL flagrantly past their useful lifes.

Mind you i still think some eastern based "views" hold true (i wouldnt call them religions as they lean more towards the individual interpration of things, instead of groupthink)

Those by their own nature and design will never be outdated. That is what makes them so interesting.

IE Taoism
ok, but this whole time im talking about christianity. christians do not groupthink, they interpret the Bible to their understanding and apply it to there lives in hope, trust and belief that they will have salvation. one christian may do things another way than the other, but as long as they do it according to the Bible, its all good in the hood.

if you can, please elaborate more on groupthink in the christian community and where it has done wrong for society in the views of everyday people. i mean, if they truly are doing it the correct way, they dont get in the way of anybody, but accept everyone.
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
haha who me?


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haahhaaha
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im surprised nobody has said this yet, but YOUR MOM!!!



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