Project Weightloss: SM 02 WRX Wagon

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Old 06-02-2013, 02:22 AM
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Gotta learn from my competition here. Although, until I have a DD and I don't have to race and drive my STi, I'll be leaving the majority of my car alone.
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So 16.1.I. says
"Front hoods (engine covers), engine covers, trunk lids and hatches
not containing glass, front fenders, rear fenders not part of chassis
structure (unibody), front & rear facias, and side skirts may be
modified or replaced, and may be attached with removable fasteners.
Associated hardware including latches, hinges, window washer
system, and hood liners may be modified, removed, or replaced."

I take it to mean that the bumper and structure can be removed/changed since its not part of the unibody. I have removed some of mine, but not all as I'm using part of it to mount my splitter hardware.
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Originally Posted by corytomo
So 16.1.I. says
"Front hoods (engine covers), engine covers, trunk lids and hatches
not containing glass, front fenders, rear fenders not part of chassis
structure (unibody), front & rear facias, and side skirts may be
modified or replaced, and may be attached with removable fasteners.
Associated hardware including latches, hinges, window washer
system, and hood liners may be modified, removed, or replaced."

I take it to mean that the bumper and structure can be removed/changed since its not part of the unibody. I have removed some of mine, but not all as I'm using part of it to mount my splitter hardware.
It's definately coming off then. I will need some material there in order to setup some ducting that I have been working on, but I think I will just be using a standard FMIC bar and going from there.
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heh they use that tool at nationals to scrub off OPR (other peoples rubber) between runs. craziness. i musta removed OPR and rocks from my codrivers car about 20 times!
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Do you think that those carpet covered pieces on the wheel wells would count as "carpet" or as a trim piece? If it's carpet I want to take it out!
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Nice sticky goodness.

I don't see how the carpet over the wheel wells would be any different than the carpet over the center hump.
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I'd say carpet, remove it.
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You can't remove the bumper beam, or use one of the ones supplied with the FMIC in SM. You can cut yours to make the FMIC fit, but you have to add the removed material back on to be the same weight, or only 1lb difference.

This is a good thread on Nasioc for SM:
Street Mod. - NASIOC
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Originally Posted by k-dogg39
You can't remove the bumper beam, or use one of the ones supplied with the FMIC in SM. You can cut yours to make the FMIC fit, but you have to add the removed material back on to be the same weight, or only 1lb difference.

This is a good thread on Nasioc for SM:
Street Mod. - NASIOC
If we were all running in nationals I would say sure, but I know plenty of guys out here are running the beams that come with fmic's, hell, even I did for a while.

Also, reading into the ruleset cory posted it surely sounds like the bumper beams can be replaced, I would say that would be a tech descision if anything.
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SM is going to be fun this year!!!!

I gotta hurry up and get the car up to spec!
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Originally Posted by Krang
If we were all running in nationals I would say sure, but I know plenty of guys out here are running the beams that come with fmic's, hell, even I did for a while.

Also, reading into the ruleset cory posted it surely sounds like the bumper beams can be replaced, I would say that would be a tech descision if anything.
Yes it can always come down to how much you want to abide by the actual rules VS just running locally and doing whatever you want, or partial rule set. But if competition was tight someone could technically protest.

If you continue reading the rules it also states:

Originally Posted by SCCA Rules
P. Any minor modification, intended to allow or facilitate any allowed
modification, is permitted as long as it does not provide any intrinsic
performance benefit in and of itself, does not provide a weight reduction
of more than 1 lb, and is not explicitly prohibited elsewhere
within these rules.
This rule is intended to allow minor notching, bending, clearancing,
grinding; the drilling of holes; affixing, relocating, or strengthening of
brackets; removal of small parts, and similar operations performed
in order to facilitate the installation of allowed parts or modifications.
Minor strengthening, without relocation, of original chassis/suspension
pickup points is allowed. Examples include welding washers
restricting control arm mounting bolt movement, local reinforcement
of control arm chassis mounts, etc.
Tech isn't there to class the car, that is up to you the driver. I am sure tech would say sure you can replace that bumper beam, as long as it is on there securely. But technically you wouldn't be in SM anymore.

I subscribed to this thread, as I am very interested in what you are doing. I like the direction you are going. I have a wagon that is in SM also.
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Originally Posted by k-dogg39
You can't remove the bumper beam, or use one of the ones supplied with the FMIC in SM. You can cut yours to make the FMIC fit, but you have to add the removed material back on to be the same weight, or only 1lb difference.

This is a good thread on Nasioc for SM:
Street Mod. - NASIOC
Darn, in reading the rules, and other forums closer, it seems the bumper rule is for the cover, and cover only. You can notch the bumper beam, and remove up to 1 pound of weight, but that's it. Good thing my bumper beam is tiny and light.. haha
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And to be honest, I'm not going to remove you to E Mod if you have a different beam... we aren't the nationals, and we want to keep it fun. It's not up to us to class your car, though we can recommend. Just make sure you have a beam there, if nothing else, then for safety. Unless you tow it only...
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