Just curious

 

His car is not quite ready yet! It still needs to be tweaked and tuned, looks good under the hood though! Lets just say he didnt beat his best run with his old setup!
JT

 

yeah, there is a lot of tuning that needs to be done. hopefully he'll get it down in a week or so.

 

hope he gets it tuned soon

 

wow...

 

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Man, I thought the guys at Speedgear would know how to get the car running halfway decent like mid 12s running modest boost, I thought these guys know how to work on these cars. This does not do any good to their reputation as a tuner - Im disappointed for Nate, or perhaps the fault lies w/ the company that put the kit together .....who knows? Regardless, I wanna see faster subarus here!
JT

 

know you, but I don't like your post. I got a call last night concerning the AVC-R settings for the car in question. The car was not even close to being tuned. That's about all I know about it. Why are you bashing SpeedGear? Ryan's probably forgotten more Suby info than you have. He'll wrench free all day for friends. Not to mention Farid and the rest of the SpeedGear employees. SpeedGear has always supported the Suby community. Hopefully I'll see you at a track event. You'll be in my rearview.

San

 

You don't tune a Kit that has a pre-mapped ECU. You can tune the AVC-R, but in my opinion it's a POS. The biggest problem with Hawaii in general is there is no proper DYNO to TUNE on. Slapping on a kit or bolting a some parts don't make you fast if you don't have a proper tune on a proper dyno for the conditions in HAWAII. I knew before he even put the kit on it would run as good as he thought. It's the nature of the beast. Every tunner in the US make the ECU safe. A safe ECU in Hawaii is really rich with less timing advance than if you had the car at there shop tuned on their dyno. Which equates to less power. Until a shop in Hawaii gets a proper dyno no one in Hawaii will ever have a well tuned machine.

 

obviously you havent heard what the hottest b!tches are saying about richard...

 

an AVC-R, and it may well be a POS, but I have nothing to judge it against. Seems to work for me. I don't see enough demand in Hawaii for an AWD dyno to make it profitable. I'd love to see one, but if Farid called me today and asked my opinion, I'd tell him to put his money elsewhere. If WMR called, I'd tell them to order four.

San

 

San,

For better or worse, the only way you're going to know how well your fuel manager works is on a dyno, a 1/4 mile or a road course, and only when you're logging all the while.

A dyno is great, and I believe that there's a whole lot of truth to the belief that you can't properly tune unless you're on one. That said, there isn't one on Oahu, so you must do what you can. A road tune is nothing to sneeze at. However, you can't know how close you are to the 'ragged edge' unless you're logging on a dyno or logging on some form of closed, level race track.

 

Hehe! ;p

 

Funny thing is the guy's car your all talking about hasn't even responded to this post and he is happy it seemed with what he got. And maybe SpeedGear could have helped set up the AVC-R but Ryan from what I hear stayed later than he had to have the car done Thrusday because Nate was hopeing to do the BMW track day..

 

I am rather new here to the fourms but when I read this I had to put in my 2 cents. I've had my STi for a little over a year now and have decided to go with Cobb's AccessPort instead of the UTEC mainly because of the lack of a 4 wheel dyno on this island. I don't understand how a 4 wheel dyno would not be a profitable investment for a tuner shop like Speedgear. I deal with Hypersport a little and everytime I go, their dyno is always being used. The last time I was at Hypersport the S2000 club was there dynoing all their cars. With all the STI's, EVo's, and Stealth R/T's/3000Gt's on this island - I don't understand how a 4 wheel dyno would be a waste. I mean how else is everyone with a tuneable ECU on their 4 wheel drive cars going to actually "tune" them. I have the AccessPort set on stage 2 91 octane, Cobb downpipe, XXTuning header, and HKS Carbon/Ti catback. My car runs a best of 13.30@102 with those parts. Honestly, I don't see how the STi's with the AVC-R's or UTEC's are going to run to their full potential without a dyno. At least Cobb gives you a ready set program that don't have to be dyno tuned. Bottom line is that the AVC-R and UTEC have to be tuned and to do that effectivley will require a 4 wheel dyno. Also, to me a dyno should be an integral component of a tuner shop. How else is a tuner shop going to gauge the performance increases of their modifications. IMHO a tuner shop without a dyno is like a metal fabrication shop without welding machines. I don't know who assumed that a 4 wheel dyno would be a waste, but I think that concept is actually hurting good tuning shops like Speedgear. I will not sit here and believe the money could be better spent elsewhere. How much better investment could a tuner shop make than to invest in a machine that can gauge how much power their modifications make and to be able to fine tune tuneable ECU's and engine computers - I can't think of a better or more worthwhile investment.
Also, I have seen more WRX's, STi's, Evo's, Eclipse's, and Stealth RT's/3000GT's on this island than Mustang's and Camaro's. Not enough demand - bull. There are more than enough all wheel drive cars on Oahu to make an all wheel drive dyno usefull and profitable.