A/C to Intercooler?
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A/C to Intercooler?
There is probably a good reason why this would not work but, I'll ask any way. Could the A/C be plumbed to a custom TMIC so that one could change the coolent direction from cabin to intercooler and back again? I'm thinking dedicated tubes in the intercooler that allow the A/C to soak up heat and then return to the compressor. Would the TMIC hold too much heat for the compressor and coolent to deal with?
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If I understand your question correctly, you are suggesting routing cool air from the A/C to the intercooler, right?
I have to believe that you would get more power by simply not having the A/C compressor turned on than you would get by cooling the intake charge with the compressor putting drag on the engine.
I have to believe that you would get more power by simply not having the A/C compressor turned on than you would get by cooling the intake charge with the compressor putting drag on the engine.
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No but he wants to keep the A/C and have an option where he can switch the direction of air. If its cool out he can have the A/C cool the intercooler, if its warm, forget the intrercooler and have it cool the cabin. Is that what you mean? It sure seems like an interestnig idea, but as these guys already said, simply leaving the A/C off would result in more power than using it to cool the intercooler. At least I'm pretty sure it would
Eventhough you lose more power by having it on, you could leave it on for say 20 minutes before a race to ensure it isn't heat soaked and what not. Then you could turn it off and kick ***.
I think it would be eaiser to rig up a welded pipe that goes through the IC that circulates liquid c02. You could have a small tank and an electric pump in the trunk. This would cool the IC and save the engine drag. Of course this would require a custom IC and it would probably be eaiser to just get a front mount. I am current ly looking in to an electric fan that i can attach to the top of the IC that will run off of a temp switch. I have friend who has Celica gts that has a topmount and he has done it it helps quite a bit and still allows good airflow to the intercooler when its not running. The hard part is that his IC is square and ours is rectangular.
There are many commercially available Co2 and NO spray kits for intercoolers, which would deliver exactly what you are describing. Routing your A/C coolant through the intercooler would most likely boil your coolant, and all the extra tubing you'd have to add would probably play havoc with the pressure levels.
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Thanks for the information. What I was thinking was running the liquid coolent through the intercooler directly without chilling air and blowing the air to the intercooler. The direct contact of the coolent within the intercooler would soak up the heat. I'm thinking that with the (beginings) of a movement to ban NOS and CO2 in street cars of other ways to lower the intake temp. I do think that this might boil the coolant as suggested above as the coolant was not designed to deal with direct contact with a heated metal grid (also known as the intercooler). The fan idea has been around, but my understanding is that one must move a lot of air (CFM) and that because you are pushing air into an enclosed engine bay, there really is no excape for the heat soaked air. To get enough CFM, I would try getting a small portable compressor and storage tank (they make underhood units for off-roading so that you can air up and down tires and use air tools for short periods of time to do trail side fixes). One could charge the tank and then let loose with a burst of 60 to 90 CFM air that would push the heat soaked air out away from the intercooler. One could try this on a dyno (easy for me to say, there isn't one within 200 miles of here) Do a pull and then blast the intercooler with compressed air for 20 seconds or so and do another pull.
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I have heard things like the N-tercooler product can crack your intercooler.
The n-tercooler is a co2 based product i believe that sprays the co2 gases directly onto the tmic surface. If what i've heard is true then rapid cooling of the i/c is not good and will damage the unit given enough time.
Perhaps i could interest you in a safer alternative like water spray?
The n-tercooler is a co2 based product i believe that sprays the co2 gases directly onto the tmic surface. If what i've heard is true then rapid cooling of the i/c is not good and will damage the unit given enough time.
Perhaps i could interest you in a safer alternative like water spray?
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Originally Posted by awns729
i thought the ntercooler was Nitrous?
This is a little off-topic, but whatever happened to "Speedmonkee" and his turbo heatshield chimney part? I can't find his web site, and I'm curious to find out if anyone installed that part and what affect it had on heat soak...
EDIT: strange, now the site is back again; it was MIA when I looked a few weeks ago. His last news update is 02/04...
EDIT: strange, now the site is back again; it was MIA when I looked a few weeks ago. His last news update is 02/04...
Last edited by meilers; Aug 6, 2004 at 10:23 AM.
Ford have come out with a similar technology for use on the next Lightening pick up truck. It uses the AC compressor to provide a really cool charge for the supercharger. Has the effect of providing a temporary boost in HP. Needs some time to recharge between use though
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removing all a/c equipment in our cars would result in more power and less weight. Thats more than 50lbs off the front of the car and removing the a/c condensor will allow more direct air flow to the radiator.
and i have never heard of a n2o or co2 messing up an intercooler, maybe a radiator.
and i have never heard of a n2o or co2 messing up an intercooler, maybe a radiator.
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