To get even close that that one would need a cobb stage 2 (atleast $1,500) or VF34(1.2bar)+silicon intake+K&N pod filter+fmi+Motec(M48)+3" from turbo with 1 high flow cat+Bigger inj+fuel pump=13.21 by a member here. posted by Wrxplaya11

This guy must not be able to drive. Last year at the drag strip I ran a 13.26 with nothing more than a downpipe and running 15psi. I didn't have a re-flash or anything. Just those mods. I dropped it from redline and left an evo in my dust. That is no exaggeration or lie. I am guessing that he was making a soft launch or something wasn't right with his car.

 

Well guys, we never got a chance to go to the track (only available on Wednesday nights), but we did do 3 overall runs. 2 were from a stop, and I destroyed him off the line and pulled on him all the way up to 80 or so when we hit the brakes.

The most "educational" run was from a roll. He started off about a car length ahead of me (I wasn't sure if he wanted to go or not this time around) and at about 5-10 mph we both gunned it instantaneously. With my Cobb stage 1 I was able to pull even with him by 40 mph, and was about a half car length ahead by 65 mph. This shows that the Roush Stage 2 doesn't have the greatest power to weight ratio. Like I said, at this point I only had a simple reflash and he has a Diablo performance chip installed. I now have a Cobb Stage 2+ and would no doubt make him look very slow, even from a roll.

My conclusion? For anyone who runs into the Roush 1 or 2, have no worries. The stage 2 does run a bit more hp than stang GT, but even with a Diablo chip mod, the added weight of the Roush package's body kit and ESPECIALLY the rotational mass of the 18" chrome wheels (which are about 18-20" wide!) make the power to weight ratio of a car that looks fast incredibly underwhelming. Roush stangs are pretty much all about looks, unless you come across a rare stage 3 (supercharged).

Good V8 hunting boys!

 

hey barrelroll, i live in sac and am a mustang (v6 ya ya i know its slow) and my mom (haha) just bought a wrx that i get to drive a lot and hopefully mod too. but a lot of mustang guys in sac (www.sacstangs.com) run at the track and the majority of them run 13.8-14.3 and theres a girl on there with a mach1 running 13 flat. there happen to be a few ls1 owners on there running 11's N/A and very low 11s (11.03) on the bottle. theres a TT 93 cobra on there running 11.7s too. most of them run friday/saturday test n tunes which u might want to go to. As for GT's running 15s, those are usually the pre 99's with their 210-215 hp. the 99+ GT's with 260 hp are running low 14s here in sac. Theres a few 03 cobras (3 i think) on the board but they only do freeway runs. well maybe some day i will see u around sac.
BTW, good kill.

 

Roush stage 1
http://www.roushperf.com/html/rpp_mustangstage1.htm

 

I think the new one that has like 400
http://www.saleen.com/pdf/S281_super...ifications.pdf

 

this is the first time i'm posting and it's only to clear up things about mustangs.
I've had 4 mustangs, 2 of them cobras. I sold my WRX to get another cobra. you have to be on crack to think a stock WRX can take any manual v8 mustang (a good drive could beat a 96-98 GT, but from 87-2004 all GT or better 5 speeds are faster than a stock WRX). I don't care about your AWD and launch. THe way i drove my car I took AWD cars off the line and i had 4.10 gears. when i had the wrx, i raced my friends 96 mystic cobra which was stock. I got my *** handed to me everytime. no i am not a bad driver, he actually is. i took him till the end of 2nd gear and then he left me like i was driving in reverse. and from a roll, forget about it. the roush 2 is a GT with a body kit and exhaust and suspension work. a 96+ cobra with exhaust 4.10 gears will beat an STi from a roll and with a good driver, will beat it from a stop. i am not even going to reply again if i get people telling me i am sayin BS because it's not. the mach 1 ran 13.1 stock, it is underrated. it has closer to 345 hp and 360 tq. the 03 cobra is the best car you can buy for the money. i don't even miss my WRX at all.

 

(rolleyes)

dude what are you smoking... I have spanked numerous old and new gen. GT's in my stock WRX (ok w/ 3" a cat-back). Even the older Cobras (not SVT) are not all that fast. I ran with a guy a few months ago off the line and he couldn't even pull on me. I have even pulled on a Z28 from a 40mph roll. GT's are slower then a stock rex. Maybe you couldn't drive AWD for ****. Stock GT's are junk. Now I will admit Cobras are a different story.

 

it sure felt slower than my 95 gt. turbo lag sucks. i only raced my cousins 2002 gt convertible automatic, she's a girl. she started off in front of me and then we went, in the end i couldnt keep up. when the roads were a little damp i took her off the line and kept going. the wrx felt very slow to me because there's no torque.
all cobras are svts btw and a z28 should destroy you from a roll. 87-93 GT's are faster than 94-98 GT's so it'd be close races. it's all different on the road and depends who is driving. i know GTs are slow that's why i got a cobra. i'm not aruing

 

The Cobra that I hung with was 95. I know they are not supercharged. I just ran a search on their 1/4 mile times, between 14.0 ~ 14.5. That to me is WRX teritory. I have 2 friends that ran their stock WRX's to a 14.0 and 14.1 bone stock. Look at this guy I searched 1996 Mustang Cobra: ok... 13.7 w/ 75 shot, custom X-pipe, 2.5 cat-back, 3:27 gears Now we can do a 13.7 stage 1 WITHOUT the bottle.

Gobs of torque and turbo lag are two different animals. Yeah, a "torque monster" V-8 is going to feel faster off the line compaired to a F-4 turbocharged car. We don't build our power till later in the rpms. Thats why when I ran the guy in the Z28 he must have had gears because when we did another run from 60mph, he would pull on me and then I cought right up to him. Now I will admit the 4.7l was a joke when it first came out. The 5.0l got my repect and sounded beautiful. Also hat's off to the 2005 Cobra SVT. Fast and I am not going to argue that. Guy in my building is hitting 12.7's with little to no work done.

 

I would have bought the cobra and saved some money. faster as well.

 

2002 WRX 4 SALE, I hate to break it to you but you are grossly mistaken. I go to college in New Orleans and own a 2005 STi (still has temp tags, absolutely stock) and a fellow student has a Mach 1. I talk to him regularly and we have raced several times before. He will admit to you that he stands no chance of beating me and if you would like we will tape the next one so everyone can be a witness to the fact that in this case, the WRX does win. I have also raced a Camaro SS with an SLP Loudmouth exhaust and won from both a roll and from a stop. I didn't read the whole thread so I am not sure if it pretains to an STi but I did see you mention in regard to the Cobra. I haven't raced a 96 but I have run a newer one and there wasn't that much difference. He barely walked away after about 55 and then we backed off.

 

according to 5.0 mag and others, gt's will run a low 14 et. Yes the stage 1 and 2 are basically body and suspension mods, except the stage 2 has exhaust and intake i think. Maybe the stage 2 could run a high 13 with John Force driving it but most likely still a low 14. The stage 3 is the only contender, supercharged with about 360hp i think, of course you can make a stock gt run low 13's or high 12's with just drag suspension, slicks, and very few mods.

I love the fact that our WRX's run with mustangs stock for stock, although not any more with the '05 gt's (300hp)