Warriors thread
Should've added this above, but Raja Bell has opted to get the wrist surgery and will be out for the whole season IF screws are needed to repair the torn ligament. If his injury is not as bad as it seems, he'll be out a minimum of 4-5 weeks. Plan on the former to happen. So essentially we got nothing for Sjax. Cleveland could very well trade with Charlotte for Sjax later in the season.
Azabuike is out for the whole season as well. He could opt out after the end of this season.
Tonight's game against the Cavs will be only 7 playable players for the Warriors with Raja Bell suiting up, but not playing. League minimum must have 8 players for a game.
Azabuike is out for the whole season as well. He could opt out after the end of this season.
Tonight's game against the Cavs will be only 7 playable players for the Warriors with Raja Bell suiting up, but not playing. League minimum must have 8 players for a game.
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Cohan should sell the warriors to a person willing to make this team a winner. Management (Rowell + Cohan) should realize that without catching lightning in a bottle back in 2007 (We Believe Team), they would have missed the playoffs for 16 years! Nelson screwed Mullin, Nelson screwed Stack Jack, Nelson is screwing Curry, Randolph, and Monta. Nelson, Cohan, Rowell need to go ASAP. Otherwise, with those guys running the show, Warrior fans will have little to cheer about. The product they are putting out on the court right now is unbelievably tragic.
Ticket sales have declined over 20% this season over last season. In an effort to boost sales, numerous insiders in the Warriors organization as well as other NBA organizations, confirmed that nobody is untouchable on the Warriors roster.
Meaning: Everybody is on the trading block for potential trades. No exceptions. That includes Curry, Randolph, Morrow, Ellis, Beidrins...everybody.
Randolph has lost quite a bit of trade value since the start of the season, with not many teams willing to bite, considering his sloppy play and poor shooting. Teams that were strongly interested in him before, aren't as interested, unless he's packaged with some other Warrior players.
You could possibly see the Amare Stoudimire trade revisited, but now with Curry mixed into the deal (which was the deal-breaker back then).
You could also see a Chris Bosh deal, but Toronto still isn't willing to part with him.
Warriors franchise has been losing a lot of money this season, so all players are a target. Doesn't matter what happens next season, if management can sign a big name player to help boost ticket sales this season.
From Yahoo Sports:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Sports Illustrated just named the Warriors as the worst franchise in this decade.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...html?eref=sihp
Meaning: Everybody is on the trading block for potential trades. No exceptions. That includes Curry, Randolph, Morrow, Ellis, Beidrins...everybody.
Randolph has lost quite a bit of trade value since the start of the season, with not many teams willing to bite, considering his sloppy play and poor shooting. Teams that were strongly interested in him before, aren't as interested, unless he's packaged with some other Warrior players.
You could possibly see the Amare Stoudimire trade revisited, but now with Curry mixed into the deal (which was the deal-breaker back then).
You could also see a Chris Bosh deal, but Toronto still isn't willing to part with him.
Warriors franchise has been losing a lot of money this season, so all players are a target. Doesn't matter what happens next season, if management can sign a big name player to help boost ticket sales this season.
From Yahoo Sports:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Warriors’ Randolph on block again
For two seasons, the Warriors have had an odd time with Anthony Randolph(notes). Sometimes, they’re in love with his sheer athletic ability in that 7-foot frame and considered him untouchable. As a rookie, they dangled him in deals, too. Well, it’s happening again. Several NBA teams say Golden State officials have offered Randolph in trade discussions, but as one Eastern Conference executive said: “I think all of their roster could be had.”
Says one Western official: “The Warriors are willing to do anything and everything.”
Randolph is 20 years old and blessed with terrific talent, but his staying power and maturity have frustrated Golden State officials. It appears they’re willing to cash his potential for more mature assets. After destroying the summer league in Vegas, Randolph has averaged 11.1 points in 21.8 minutes per night for the Warriors.
Even with his patriarch, Keith Smart, substituting for an ill Don Nelson, Randolph’s productivity hasn’t improved. Still, he’s so young, so gifted, it’s a move that would come with a great deal of long-term risk.
For two seasons, the Warriors have had an odd time with Anthony Randolph(notes). Sometimes, they’re in love with his sheer athletic ability in that 7-foot frame and considered him untouchable. As a rookie, they dangled him in deals, too. Well, it’s happening again. Several NBA teams say Golden State officials have offered Randolph in trade discussions, but as one Eastern Conference executive said: “I think all of their roster could be had.”
Says one Western official: “The Warriors are willing to do anything and everything.”
Randolph is 20 years old and blessed with terrific talent, but his staying power and maturity have frustrated Golden State officials. It appears they’re willing to cash his potential for more mature assets. After destroying the summer league in Vegas, Randolph has averaged 11.1 points in 21.8 minutes per night for the Warriors.
Even with his patriarch, Keith Smart, substituting for an ill Don Nelson, Randolph’s productivity hasn’t improved. Still, he’s so young, so gifted, it’s a move that would come with a great deal of long-term risk.
Sports Illustrated just named the Warriors as the worst franchise in this decade.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...html?eref=sihp
WORST FRANCHISE: Golden State Warriors
While the Clippers and Warriors each missed the playoffs nine times out of 10, this award goes to the Warriors on style points. They burned through six coaches, culminating with the decision to hire Don Nelson, who underwent meltdowns with several players after appearing to play a role in the ouster of his GM and friend, Chris Mullin. The shame of Golden State's decade was that it built several promising teams only to see each one self-destruct -- including the inspired No. 8 seed that knocked off the No. 1 Mavericks in the first round of the 2007 playoffs. The Warriors had an energized fan base and a big-spending owner in Chris Cohan, which only made the endless dysfunctionality all the more bitter.
While the Clippers and Warriors each missed the playoffs nine times out of 10, this award goes to the Warriors on style points. They burned through six coaches, culminating with the decision to hire Don Nelson, who underwent meltdowns with several players after appearing to play a role in the ouster of his GM and friend, Chris Mullin. The shame of Golden State's decade was that it built several promising teams only to see each one self-destruct -- including the inspired No. 8 seed that knocked off the No. 1 Mavericks in the first round of the 2007 playoffs. The Warriors had an energized fan base and a big-spending owner in Chris Cohan, which only made the endless dysfunctionality all the more bitter.
From Inside the Bay Area.com:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009...s-untouchable/
http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009...s-untouchable/
Did some digging after YahooSports! Ruined my flight back home after a 10-day, five-game road trip with news about the Warriors shopping Randolph (C’mon, Woj!). According to a team source, and a few sources from other teams, Randolph is on the block.
Just a few weeks ago — when all the drama about Monta Ellis’ agent meeting with the team to potentially discuss a trade — I was told by a trusted team source that Randolph, along with rookie guard Stephen Curry and second-year shooting guard Anthony Morrow, were all untouchable. Now, I’m told by a Warriors insider that no one is untouchable. Everyone is on the market.
Even Randolph, the potential-laden second-year man the Warriors touted as the centerpiece of their young core.
Even Curry, the prized No. 7 pick who the Warriors coveted so much they reportedly passed on Amare Stoudemire
Even Ellis, who perhaps could become the Warriors first All-Star since 1997.
I will say this with certainty – Randolph would welcome a trade. He would be none short of happy. I’ve heard that from several people close to him.
Why the change in plan?
Several factors. The primary one, I think, is that the team is underperforming, especially Randolph. Certainly, his attitude and lack of attention to detail has worn thin. It was expected that with Nellie out of the picture for five games, Smart — who has been working with Randolph one-on-one since he came into the league — would play Randolph. The fact that Smart didn’t, instead started Vladimir Radmanovic over Randolph and even played Chris Hunter ahead of Randolph on occasion, suggests Randolph is running out of allies in the organization.
From Randolph’s perspective, how could he flourish when he is so handcuffed? Certainly, from the outside looking in, he is held to a different standard than the other players. His mistakes get him yanked, and others’ don’t. His poor shots reduce his minutes, while others get to chuck away unimpeded. When he doesn’t rebound, it’s problem. But the Warriors are the worst-rebounding team in the league, so clearly he isn’t the only one not rebounding.
Randolph lately had been trying to tone down his game, and the results show in his lack of turnovers, which assuredly he thought would get him more time (when I asked him about it, he just gave me a look and dished out the company line).
Perhaps GM Larry Riley sees the impasse and concluded that it would be best for everyone to if they found him a new home, especially if he can help them get the difference maker they covet. And they still have Brandan Wright in tow, who is ahead of Randolph in the eyes of some on the Warriors’ staff.
One Eastern Conference executive told me Randolph isn’t the hot commodity he once was. He’s closer to a big payday but not closer to maxing out the potential he’s known for having. His attitude and effort cause concerns, too.
There was no question Curry was untouchable. Nelson and Riley said it publicly. But Curry’s struggles in the first month-plus and the rise of Ellis no doubt made Riley realize he can indeed live without Curry. I’m told they still want Curry and really like him as a player and person. But if he can help them get somebody they want, they are now willing to do it.
I still think they don’t want to trade Morrow. He doesn’t appear to have the upside Randolph has, but they love his work ethic, his attitude and his special gift.
There is also this: putting everybody on the table could mean Riley has been striking out. Three of his key pawns are hurt (Biedrins, Wright, Azubuike), two out for the year. If he is going to lure an Amare Stoudemire, a David West, a Chris Bosh, a Caron Butler or whoever, he probably learned it’s going to take more.
But why Ellis in the mix?
His trade value will likely never be higher. You almost have to see what he gets you, right?
But an Ellis trade is risky. His current play is only showing you need multiple stars. Why consider giving up the one sure one you have? Seems they did that already. (Imagine Baron and Monta together now)
To be sure, though, when you’re 7-17, the smart thing to do is to investigate every possible move.
Just a few weeks ago — when all the drama about Monta Ellis’ agent meeting with the team to potentially discuss a trade — I was told by a trusted team source that Randolph, along with rookie guard Stephen Curry and second-year shooting guard Anthony Morrow, were all untouchable. Now, I’m told by a Warriors insider that no one is untouchable. Everyone is on the market.
Even Randolph, the potential-laden second-year man the Warriors touted as the centerpiece of their young core.
Even Curry, the prized No. 7 pick who the Warriors coveted so much they reportedly passed on Amare Stoudemire
Even Ellis, who perhaps could become the Warriors first All-Star since 1997.
I will say this with certainty – Randolph would welcome a trade. He would be none short of happy. I’ve heard that from several people close to him.
Why the change in plan?
Several factors. The primary one, I think, is that the team is underperforming, especially Randolph. Certainly, his attitude and lack of attention to detail has worn thin. It was expected that with Nellie out of the picture for five games, Smart — who has been working with Randolph one-on-one since he came into the league — would play Randolph. The fact that Smart didn’t, instead started Vladimir Radmanovic over Randolph and even played Chris Hunter ahead of Randolph on occasion, suggests Randolph is running out of allies in the organization.
From Randolph’s perspective, how could he flourish when he is so handcuffed? Certainly, from the outside looking in, he is held to a different standard than the other players. His mistakes get him yanked, and others’ don’t. His poor shots reduce his minutes, while others get to chuck away unimpeded. When he doesn’t rebound, it’s problem. But the Warriors are the worst-rebounding team in the league, so clearly he isn’t the only one not rebounding.
Randolph lately had been trying to tone down his game, and the results show in his lack of turnovers, which assuredly he thought would get him more time (when I asked him about it, he just gave me a look and dished out the company line).
Perhaps GM Larry Riley sees the impasse and concluded that it would be best for everyone to if they found him a new home, especially if he can help them get the difference maker they covet. And they still have Brandan Wright in tow, who is ahead of Randolph in the eyes of some on the Warriors’ staff.
One Eastern Conference executive told me Randolph isn’t the hot commodity he once was. He’s closer to a big payday but not closer to maxing out the potential he’s known for having. His attitude and effort cause concerns, too.
There was no question Curry was untouchable. Nelson and Riley said it publicly. But Curry’s struggles in the first month-plus and the rise of Ellis no doubt made Riley realize he can indeed live without Curry. I’m told they still want Curry and really like him as a player and person. But if he can help them get somebody they want, they are now willing to do it.
I still think they don’t want to trade Morrow. He doesn’t appear to have the upside Randolph has, but they love his work ethic, his attitude and his special gift.
There is also this: putting everybody on the table could mean Riley has been striking out. Three of his key pawns are hurt (Biedrins, Wright, Azubuike), two out for the year. If he is going to lure an Amare Stoudemire, a David West, a Chris Bosh, a Caron Butler or whoever, he probably learned it’s going to take more.
But why Ellis in the mix?
His trade value will likely never be higher. You almost have to see what he gets you, right?
But an Ellis trade is risky. His current play is only showing you need multiple stars. Why consider giving up the one sure one you have? Seems they did that already. (Imagine Baron and Monta together now)
To be sure, though, when you’re 7-17, the smart thing to do is to investigate every possible move.
Anthony Morrow out for quite a while, blowing out his knee when Maggette fell on him. Time to send another D-leaguer up lol 
Edit: Guess I was wrong and it looked more serious than it was. Morrow is back in the game.

Edit: Guess I was wrong and it looked more serious than it was. Morrow is back in the game.
Last edited by TurnWRX; Jan 15, 2010 at 08:13 PM.
Cartier Martin just got an elbow to his eye from trying to block a Bogut dunk, giving him an instant black eye. He will be out for at least a quarter.
The injuries just keep piling up with the dubs!
The injuries just keep piling up with the dubs!


