That is a gross assumption on what I am saying.

A simple statement that where we live in this world gives us the freedom to have our own thought & opinion does not say Opinion= fact.


Let me remind you that my first statement had no topics relating to the holocaust.

Back to the topic.

That again is your opinion. You are free to display that opinion in this public place without anyone making a personal attack on your intelligence, moral code or any other area not related to the facts relating to the statement.

I agree with having an educated explanation on why you feel a certain way, but lets keep personal attacks aside.

 

 

I wasn't saying it to you personally, I speak in general terms that there is a fine line between having an opinion and being massively offensive.

 

i'm not saying he Government doesn't lie to us, i'm saying that believing in a vast conspiracy regarding the WTC towers is almost as ridiculous as denying the holocaust.


its true. read up on the pentagon attack, there are far more questions than answers. Unoccupied part of the building, no marks on the grass, missing video footage, etc.


http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/magnesium

"...structural uses of magnesium alloys were in aircraft fuselages, engine parts, and wheels. They are now also used in jet-engine parts, rockets and missiles, luggage frames, portable power tools, and cameras and optical instruments."



"Magnesium is flammable, burning at a temperature of approximately 2500 K (2200 °C, 4000 °F)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium

"Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C (2500°F)"
http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html

"The stress in a steel beam determines its load carrying capacity. The normal critical temperature of steel is 1,100 F (593 C). at this temperature the yield stress of steel is about 60% of its value at room temperature"
Principles of fire protection: Arthur E. Cote, Percy Bugbee




once again:

"Magnesium is flammable, burning at a temperature of approximately 2500 K (2200 °C, 4000 °F)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium

There was no magnesium fuselage burning inside of WTC7... fire would have been limited in temperature by the fuel available to it. No magnesium + no jet fuel + lower temp

its called common sense, try using it sometime.


"The collapse of the WTC towers generated large seismic waves observed in five states and up to 428 km away. The North Tower collapse was the larger seismic source and had a magnitude ML 2.3 (Kim et al., 2001)"
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/

 

oh and one more thing:

QED MOTHER ****ER.

 

I agree with that. I believe voicing your opinion should not just be for the purpose of insulting others.

 

:zomgthingsgettingheated:

 

Thanks!

Nice - thanks for the info!

 

All the mind-control chemicals They put in toothpaste is working, I see. Stop brushing your teeth naysayers!!!

 

I disagree. But thanks for the links and such anyway, uncle ****er.

Also, yes, magnesium is flammable, and yes, magnesium is used in aircraft engines and other parts but I believe the question at hand pertains to the specific aircraft in the event, not simply random or "some" aircraft. Just a guess.

Pretty funny how YOUR speculation is okay, but others' is not. Not really funny "haha" but funny "stupid."

Common sense - yes - that is what my post was all about. Did you miss that? It seems a lot more like "uncommon sense" these days.

 

 

Thanks for the explanation, and I agree as well. Even if the tanks were 100% full (leaving no room for vapor) the agitation of the bump into the building and resulting tearing of metal and etc could have created a situation similar to your fuel tank story. There are still the questions of why this has never happened before in any other aircraft-building interference fit, let alone it happening to a building that was designed to take direct hits from Boeing 707s but of course that is going down the path of silly speculation.

LOL... I just had to point out the lit match to Zippo transition. Wasn't mocking of course.

Also I wanted to point out that the OP simply has a photo in it with what I believe to be a factual statement - no aircraft ever hit WTC7 if I remember right. All the other BS in this thread was created by the posters which is funny "haha" to me. A photo like that truly is threadbait for the types posting in here. Wonder what that says about us all?

 

"typical peak temperature in a home fire ranges between 800 to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit"
--Underwriters Laboratory

that means, regardless of aircraft composition, a fire burning for long enough at the temp of an average home fire would be enough to weaken the steel structure of the building by half.


its not speculation... i went to college for Aerospace Engineering.
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical Univ. http://www.erau.edu/

additionally, i choose to backup my statements with actual data, you know - that stuff that exists in the realm of reality, as opposed to the merely offering conjecture.

thanks for playing, though.

if your post was "all about" common sense, how come you displayed so little?

 

we're bored at work?

 

or at home