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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Calsoldier
That's assuming any of those people had anything to do with this. I can pick out 1,000 more people like them and throw them under the bus for the Fed to scrutinize, but that doesn't mean that they were involved.
so bin laden, atta, and atef had nothing to do with 9/11?


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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Calsoldier
To those who have a hard time waking up and seeing for the truth themselves, it's very easy to understand why. By admitting to yourself that there might exist another answer to these 9/11 events clearly undermines everything you already believe in.

Nevertheless, inside jobs have occurred throughout history over and over, yet the lack of nationalism and identity in the U.S. makes the public much less responsive to the events in politics, but rather indulged in their own lives, careers, and well being. This creates an environment that is less prone to rallies, demonstrations, and more so revolutions. Try these politics in Europe, we'll all be counting days until cars start getting overturned. People are awake there, and only because they have an understanding of history (US History goes back what, 200 years?) that they question the governing body and it's decisions.

It's easy to be ignorant. And that's exactly what "they" are banking on.
i honestly think the truth lies somewhere in between:

1.) it was 100% an inside job and dick cheney blew the buildings up himself cuz he's darth vader

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2.) our government was 100% ignorant to the fact that anyone could/would do this and then one day, "surprise! we just ran airplanes into your two tallest buildings."



if we're talking about the human factor relating to power and money, i can see how knowledge of the attacks could have been ignored in order for the public to become fearful of foreign attacks, which would allow the government more control of any situation pertaining to national security or global terrorism.

But as far as users not respecting the op's thread (i posted this once before in this thread, but i'll paste it again since it pertains to this post as well): It's difficult to convince the masses of a huge elaborate conspiracy just by posting one gif of a building falling. It's also laughable to expect people to just say, "Yeah you're right, I'm convinced just based on that one gif image", and at the same time not expect people to respond with a reasonable argument, and then tell people they "need help".

How are we supposed to take that seriously? Sure some of the things people said were pretty a-hole-ish, and i'll be the first to admit that, but we're acting like this is the first time we've given someone a hard time about a thread that will most likely cause two very opposing perspectives.

to me, it's all in good fun. we've all been at the receiving and giving end of this type of behavior because its i-club, it's how internet forums work. i dont think things will change soon, so let's have a good laugh.
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Im still trying to figure out how the guy who flew a plane into one of the buildings, the guy who planned the attack, and the leader of the organization that trained and funded them were "uninvolved".

Care to enlighten us CalSoldier?
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Ugh. I love a conspiracy as much as the next guy, but if you cant look at all the materials, analysis and export reports on the events of 9/11 and see that its even possible that it was caused by airplanes piloted by "terrorists"... well, there is just no chance for you.

Its possible the government knew about it and let it happen, but its also extremely likely that people who hate us for our policies hijacked a couple of planes and crashed them into buildings. It is, however, extremely improbable that it was an "inside job" and purposely imploded. There is no way they could have controlled that demolition with live explosives in there while crashing a plane into it. That scenario makes the least sense of anything heretofore mentioned.

So, since there is no reasoning with fools, Im signing off for good. There is plenty of evidence that is posted here to show that it is not only possible that planes and fire brought the buildings down, that is the most likely scenario and nothing more anyone says will make you see that.
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by subaruwrx
Ugh. I love a conspiracy as much as the next guy, but if you cant look at all the materials, analysis and export reports on the events of 9/11 and see that its even possible that it was caused by airplanes piloted by "terrorists"... well, there is just no chance for you.

Its possible the government knew about it and let it happen, but its also extremely likely that people who hate us for our policies hijacked a couple of planes and crashed them into buildings. It is, however, extremely improbable that it was an "inside job" and purposely imploded. There is no way they could have controlled that demolition with live explosives in there while crashing a plane into it. That scenario makes the least sense of anything heretofore mentioned.

So, since there is no reasoning with fools, Im signing off for good. There is plenty of evidence that is posted here to show that it is not only possible that planes and fire brought the buildings down, that is the most likely scenario and nothing more anyone says will make you see that.

That's too bad, your posts were sort of funny - especially all the jumping to conclusions and telling people they are too stupid to discuss this with you. It must be very frustrating to be so smart!

You're right - there is no reasoning with fools, which is why it's important to not take all this stuff so seriously.

Anyway since I have not said anything about what I believe yet, I will say that just like everyone else here, I have no real idea what happened but I agree that the likelihood of the entire thing being some inside job is very low. I also have the ability to consider that there are things that could have transpired here that I may not even know about or fully understand. Saying anything absolutely happened based on an incomplete amount of information or zero direct knowledge of the situation is truly the work of a fool.
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
You're right - there is no reasoning with fools, which is why it's important to not take all this stuff so seriously.
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Saying anything absolutely happened based on an incomplete amount of information or zero direct knowledge of the situation is truly the work of a fool.
^ Totally agree. You're right.



Damn, we could have avoided this entire thread debacle if you had just said that earlier, after these two posts, where this poster draws absolute conclusions based on an incomplete amount of information and zero direct knowledge of the situation:

Originally Posted by iLoqin
Originally Posted by iLoqin
No, it's supposed to show you 9/11 was an inside job. Just another step toward owning the world.

But I hear ya, we shouldn't do the same and perpetuate the same thing we so love to complain about .
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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so does that mean the thread is dying?
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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it died with post #1
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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it died with post #1
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