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looks like i'm not your biggest fan after all
looks like i'm not your biggest fan after all
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Yea and of course it couldn't be because of the shared basement system and the fire that spread under #7 that damaged the support structure to the point of fail. Noooooooo that couldn't cause it, nope.
What isn't fact? that someone found super thermite in the rubble? from 9/11 examined by multiple engineers? Or that somehow this building collapsed just as perfectly as the other towers straight down the middle, just as if a demolition person would have had it happen so it doesn't tip over to one side?
Those are facts. If you believe that this building that is shown repeatedly was due to the shaking of the ground or something then you seriously shouldn't own a gun. With a gun you know where the gun powder is and how the bullet comes out. With what these guys did to drop these buildings as fast and as perfect with precision time shows exactly how the gun was built to shoot the bullets. The Demolition was rigged in the building.
This isn't conspiracy logic. IT IS THE ONLY LOGIC possible. Those towers were built to withstand multiple plane crashes. That is fact. there is no jet fuel that burns at 3k degrees (which was measured off one of the posts in the basement of the site).
No Jet fuel "disintegrates" everything into powder. There is logic, and there is bull**** (what the government has been doing)
Those are facts. If you believe that this building that is shown repeatedly was due to the shaking of the ground or something then you seriously shouldn't own a gun. With a gun you know where the gun powder is and how the bullet comes out. With what these guys did to drop these buildings as fast and as perfect with precision time shows exactly how the gun was built to shoot the bullets. The Demolition was rigged in the building.
This isn't conspiracy logic. IT IS THE ONLY LOGIC possible. Those towers were built to withstand multiple plane crashes. That is fact. there is no jet fuel that burns at 3k degrees (which was measured off one of the posts in the basement of the site).
No Jet fuel "disintegrates" everything into powder. There is logic, and there is bull**** (what the government has been doing)
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by the way if you look at the video of the south tower collapsing the collapse started at the top not the bottom like your little demo video...do the research before you post. we only attack the weak...
I was just thinking. This post has to be a joke (its more funny than factual). It's difficult to convince the masses of a huge elaborate conspiracy just by posting one gif of a building falling. It's also laughable to expect people to just say, "Yeah you're right, I'm convinced just based on that one gif image", and at the same time not expect people to respond with a reasonable argument, and then tell people they "need help". 
. This is not a real discussion.
I'm not saying that the OP is wrong, but just give us something more to work with (ie. data and proof that you are qualified to evaulate that data).
. This is not a real discussion. I'm not saying that the OP is wrong, but just give us something more to work with (ie. data and proof that you are qualified to evaulate that data).
Touché Jacob 
THe official story is at least backed up by the research of multiple organizations and imperial data rather than the poor "logic" of the conspiracies. Of course, the second step is to question the data and analysis, which typically requires being a scientist/engineer to be done properly.
THe official story is at least backed up by the research of multiple organizations and imperial data rather than the poor "logic" of the conspiracies. Of course, the second step is to question the data and analysis, which typically requires being a scientist/engineer to be done properly.
Yes of course, "your nuts" for even considering that our government has been dishonest with us, and that there could possibly be another explanation.
Oh, ok.
As we were cruising around in a desert, this discussion went on for hours, until the other guy said,"And to prove my point, I'll throw a match into this Jerry can 1/2 full of diesel!"
Before we could stop him, the had the cap off the can and his Zippo out & aflame.
Now remember, this was a 1/2 full can...2 1/2 gallons...of diesel that had been bouncing around all day in the hot sun.
The zippo barely made it to the mouth of the can when a tremendous fireball shot out of the can, kinda like a Saturn V rocket engine.
Luckily, no one was hurt by the explosion and only equipment was lost.
My point?
Diesel = kerosene = Jet Fuel, sorta.
So a plane traveling at several hundreds of mph, full of fuel, is more than an a huge ANFO bomb.
Before we could stop him, the had the cap off the can and his Zippo out & aflame.
Now remember, this was a 1/2 full can...2 1/2 gallons...of diesel that had been bouncing around all day in the hot sun.
The zippo barely made it to the mouth of the can when a tremendous fireball shot out of the can, kinda like a Saturn V rocket engine.
Luckily, no one was hurt by the explosion and only equipment was lost.
My point?
Diesel = kerosene = Jet Fuel, sorta.
So a plane traveling at several hundreds of mph, full of fuel, is more than an a huge ANFO bomb.
Simply mocking or name-calling anyone who questions the answers seems to be an ignorant thing to do, IMHO.
I personally would thoroughly enjoy seeing a well reasoned argument on this subject. Each time it comes up we have posts like those from Superglue WRX, VRT MBasile and Overbear simply mocking the poster. Then we have brucelee's lobster story and other stuff. UP2MNTS's sassy mocking "well you aren't an engineer so neener neener" crap and some various anecdotes. I have yet to see ONE THING come back from those that are swinging from the gov'ts nuts on this case that is above simple mockery, and that lends VERY little to credibility. Just like everyone else here, I have NO HONEST CONCEPT what happened that day. I have ideas, but it would be a fool's errand for any of us to say, one way or another, that we know what happened.
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Oh ok. So you think that all our thoughts & opinions should be controlled?
I have seen this type of thinking before.... speaking of history.
i think we need to look at how the op is presenting these cases, and the manner in which he talks to us as well. cant you see that his attitude does not help him convey his point? would you say that this thread was presented in a way to start reasonable conjecture with the rest of i-club?
I know its f'd up and mean to attack his posts in the manner that we do, but i think alot of times, these threads are kind of "asking for it" is all.
for those who care http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM...agar-0112.html