Originally Posted by XxSti05xX

I had those tires. Don't want to scare but they grip for sh** in the snow. The one time and last time I went up with them I got a good scare. Most of of you know where that 76 station on Hwy 88 is right past Pionner on the right hand side. Well its a small downhill to it. I was coming slow, it was snowing and the roads were covered in snow and slush maybe about an 1". I started braking about 100' before so I can turn into the gas station. Well lets say I slid right past it. Once I did stop I had a incredibly hard time even going up the small incline to the gas station. AWD means nothing if not equipped with the right tires.

In very light snow like 1/4" they handle ok, throw anything nasty at them and they are horrible.

Pirelli now has the PZero Nero All Season which look to be alot better.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ero+All+Season
"This line originated as the P Zero Nero M+S "Pinna" line that identified Pirelli’s use of a tread design that features additional sipes to enhance snow traction compared to P Zero Nero M+S tires."

Originally Posted by zergling

You sure there wasn't ice underneath the snow on your braking zone? I have the same tires, and did the same thing (slid past the turn) at Northstar last year. Had to make a U-turn at the next "corner", and when I went back, I saw an ice patch where I was braking. I'm guessing there probably was a big ice patch there, hidden underneath the snow.

Anyway, all season is still a "good-enough" option for folks like me that don't have the space or $$ for a separate set of tires and/or wheels.


Me and my buddy are hitting up Sierra again on Saturday! Yeah!

Originally Posted by XxSti05xX

Nope no ice. Even trying to drive in about 1" of unplowed snow I was having a hard time trying not to spin all 4 wheels. Wasn't giving it much gas either. Sorry to say those tires suck in the snow, but good in dry and wet. Not enough sipes on those tires. Since then I switched over to the Bridgestone RE960AS Pole Position, way better tire in the snow.

Originally Posted by XxSti05xX

^^^Sick. I'll be at Kirkwood tomorrow too. First time is brutal but fun. You'll feel it for sure the next day.

Originally Posted by zergling

Thanks for the heads up, man. I personally haven't had any problems (except for that one time ice patch incident). Perhaps driving in I-mode and having extra weight with passengers helped with keeping traction

You know, I saw a V8 mustang at the Sierra parking lot a couple weeks back with the same tires (or at least, same tread pattern). You can see the rear tires slipping-catching-slipping-catching traction while he was getting out of parking. But you can hear (exhaust) that he was very smooth/gentle on the throttle, and he got out without the rears stepping out on him.

Originally Posted by R-Dub

Bring on the PAIN!