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Old May 20, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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**** man, I drive 70+mph on lawrence every time I drive that road. ;D
Me too, you catch all the lights at 35, so 70 works too..
Old May 20, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Yin
the smaller rear swaybar that soa specs is safer than a larger rear swaybar.

smaller rear sway = less oversteer
larger rear sway = more oversteer
It's safer like thicker rubber in a rubber room is safer for the person in the room. What's even safer than people being protected from themselves is learning how to operate your vehicle.
Old May 20, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
RE92s and the swaybar are fine. Part of being a good driver is knowing your limits, and the limits of your equipment.
I think it's all relative..; and I think relatively... re92s and swaybar are not fine by any means. Granted a good driver should know the limits of his/her equipment... but if you are putting high performance equipment coupled with a few weak parts.... it's certainly a poor design.... especially when it's not an issue of a cost-benefit analysis on the side of subaru.
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Originally Posted by Heavy Dan
I think it's all relative..; and I think relatively... re92s and swaybar are not fine by any means. Granted a good driver should know the limits of his/her equipment... but if you are putting high performance equipment coupled with a few weak parts.... it's certainly a poor design.... especially when it's not an issue of a cost-benefit analysis on the side of subaru.
If that's true, then how on earth can anything like an '82 Cutlass Ciera be fine? Or any number of cars that a stock WRX can easily out-handle. I really hate it when people blame their in-ability to operate a vehicle on the vehicle itself. When you hit stuff, it's your fault. Without the driver, the car would be fine. It is NOT a poor design at all. It's a way to make the car more affordable, so we all have a crack at wrecking one.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Heavy Dan
I think it's all relative..; and I think relatively... re92s and swaybar are not fine by any means. Granted a good driver should know the limits of his/her equipment... but if you are putting high performance equipment coupled with a few weak parts.... it's certainly a poor design.... especially when it's not an issue of a cost-benefit analysis on the side of subaru.
I guess I don't understand how you think the sway bar is unsafe. That sway bar was spec'd to prevent too much oversteer, which, for the general public, makes the car safer.

And you can argue the tire thing all you want. Truthfully, RE92s are perfectly fine, and are better than most tires out there. They aren't great for the type of driving many of us do, but there is nothing wrong with them. Blaming this kids death, even in PART, on the RE92s or the sway bar is plain foolish.
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Heavy Dan
I think it's all relative..; and I think relatively... re92s and swaybar are not fine by any means. Granted a good driver should know the limits of his/her equipment... but if you are putting high performance equipment coupled with a few weak parts.... it's certainly a poor design.... especially when it's not an issue of a cost-benefit analysis on the side of subaru.
I am going to disagree with you on this one Dan.

I pushed my wagon when it was stock very hard.
I push my wagon hard now with it lowered, 20mm RSB, 17" rims & tires, strut tower bar.
The WRX is no sloppy handling vehicle. it may roll more when stock, but can still be pushed very far.

It comes down to driver skills.
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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you guys still at it?? debating about parts, and driver, etc.....

the suspension forum sure looks like a good place for your arguments

wow...
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by subiedon
you guys still at it?? debating about parts, and driver, etc.....

the suspension forum sure looks like a good place for your arguments

wow...
no body responds in that forum. ;P
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdrama
no body responds in that forum. ;P
but make another thread instead of posting here about suspension, the title says accident, the content says death, and yet half of the whole thread is about tires, sway bars, and "**** that guy, he deserves to die"
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by subiedon
but make another thread instead of posting here about suspension, the title says accident, the content says death, and yet half of the whole thread is about tires, sway bars, and "**** that guy, he deserves to die"
Sorry, sir. Please redirect the topic as to your wishes.

Should we speak of funeral arrangements?
Speeding on public streets?

What? The thread isn't off topic as all of the above posts are related to the thread. One person called in to question the suspension so we were talking about.

But we appreciate you policing the thread, oh great one
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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but make another thread instead of posting here about suspension, the title says accident, the content says death, and yet half of the whole thread is about tires, sway bars, and "**** that guy, he deserves to die"
Check out those knockers on that avatar!


Does anyone know who this guy is? I'm going to say that he deserved to die, but according to the actions he took he was obviously willing to accept the consequences. So, I'm not sad for him - he knew what he was potentially getting himself into. Im just sad for his family.
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
Sorry, sir. Please redirect the topic as to your wishes.

Should we speak of funeral arrangements?
Speeding on public streets?

What? The thread isn't off topic as all of the above posts are related to the thread. One person called in to question the suspension so we were talking about.

But we appreciate you policing the thread, oh great one



nah, you can keep it, i don't really want your job

my bad, i did not see your "STAFF MEMBER" status
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by subiedon
nah, you can keep it, i don't really want your job

my bad, i did not see your "STAFF MEMBER" status
My "status" has nothing to do with it. The thread was on topic and you overreacted to nothing.

And now by continuing to post, you're the one knocking the thread off topic. Smooth.
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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check out those knockers!
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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wow there scotty actually im suprised you havent jumpin in and edited the hell out of this thread or trashed some peoples post

since i hear you LOVE doing that...
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