Originally Posted by wombatsauce

Just like if a car has more HP than another, "it" will be "fastar" in every situation, right?



Ed - I never said anything at all about being "comfortable" with the car. It was a lot EASIER for me to maintain high speeds down HWY 1 in my Camaro SS, but it was a lot more FUN for ME to maintain the SAME speeds in a far less capable vehicle. How, in the world, could it possibly be "more comfortable" to go the same speed in a Justy on RE-92's as in my 2010 Camaro SS as it was equipped? The bigger challenge is getting a car around a corner with skill instead of computers and far more HP than is necessary just to make up the lack of skill. Doing this same exact thing at significantly greater speeds is just more risk, and it's not necessary - AT ALL.

Maybe the simple fact of the matter is that I am not that skilled of a driver.

All that extra power that makes it so that the average driver can finally out-accelerate that jerk in the Camry is enough to make cars these days seriously dangerous in the wrong hands because of all the un-needed power. I am probably fairly alone in my thinking here, but I agree with me 100%.

Younger folks scoff and laugh at the power cars made 10-20 years ago. People point out that a Camry has more power than a SS Camaro did 15 years ago. The daily drivers of little old ladies have more power than racing cars of the past. Yes, it's true - and so so sad. It has created a whole new kind of terrible, and frightening driver that has the winning combination of not enough skill combined with too much confidence, and the idea that power alone will make them faster. The skill came from starting out in underpowered cars, as you have mentioned you did yourself.

I mean, the most confusing thing to me here is that I think we probably agree for the most part, and I see what you are saying - but I just can't get my point across. Plus, I am old. So that makes me sort of dumb across the board.



Why would I want the same version of my car but with less power? That doesn't make any sense at all. That question explains what is going on here. I guess I don't know how to explain what I am saying properly. No worries, and no problems! It's not absolutes, black and white and I have already said SOOOOOO many times that I never said faster cars were not fun. I don't get why you would ask this question, just as you seem to see it as a real question. Also, friends don't let friends drive N/A Subarus, but that is yet another topic!



Yes. I love cars, and driving. I get sad when I am at a race track and someone is in front of me in a much more powerful car in a corner holding me up and taking my fun away, clearly not enjoying themselves and ruining my time too, only to have a blast drag racing folks in the straights. It is the lack of understanding of the topics I was trying to explain that creates this situation. If one thinks that they simply need more power than the next guy, well, that is why we can't have nice track days.

Anyway, I definitely have nothing personal against anyone, and enjoy discussion. My first post in here was because it was refreshing to see as opposed to all the (what I see as) crap about how the BRZ sucks because it's "slow." I don't want to share the roads with people that think that way, but that is just because I am PASSIONATE about driving, and I love every minute of it. Most people I talk to hate driving. Whatevs.

But, this has gotten way out of hand! I guess I don't have what it takes to explain myself. No worries, but I think I am going to stop trying. Everyone has my permission to think of me as "wrong."