ive driven my friends ae86's. One completely stock, and the other has a lot of suspension mods. Both of them are fun as hell to drive

 

Please post video links

(I can't watch youtube embedded videos on my blackberry)

 

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Welll looks like you got a RIM device there Brian!!!!

 

I have had some 240's before and they were fun as hell to drive in everything but the straight line, same goes for the EG's, DA's and GSR my family has had. The only thing that was not fun to drive that we had and very underpowered was the 2001 mirage my brother had what a POS car.

 

One of the most fun ride alongs i've ever been on was in a 98hp Motorola CUP car at Sears Point. Holy crap was it fast/fun and severely underpowered!!!

 

Oh man, I wish I could explain it all. I have a friend who is the same way, has a stock automatic Corolla and because when he stomps on the gas pedal and it doesn't pin him in his seat, he thinks it's "slow" and therefore "not fun" but I doubt he could catch me on the back roads if I were driving his Corolla and he were driving my WRX, or a Corvette. If you think a light, underpowered car is "not fun" then you have not found the fun part of driving yet. Mashing the gas and passing can bring a smile to your face, but passing someone with skill will blow your mind and make you feel like you are one with your vehicle. Passing someone with skill in a car that is far less powerful than the car they are driving shows you that the car really doesn't matter.

Who says "fast" cars are not fun? I don't think anyone is saying that. They are a blast! It's just that "slow" cars are WAAAAAAAY more fun. I had my 2010 Camaro SS/RS "daily driver" sitting in my garage and when I went out for a fun drive, I always ALWAYS took my '93 Justy that cost me $800. Because it was more fun, for me.

The Camaro was a great daily driver because w/ 426hp I could mash around someone before they completed their message and hit "send" without having to try. But for me, the fun part of driving is the trying.

If you take two people with zero track experience to a race track and give one a Z06 and the other a BRZ, the Z06 driver will start out faster because of the car, and then the BRZ driver will eclipse them - because of the car. At some point the BRZ driver will be able to catch the Z06 driver but if you swapped their cars, the person who started out in the Z06 would not have been able to learn enough about the car at the limit - because the limits are so much higher. I know this may seem like crazy talk, but it is true.

Please note that I just used a race track as an example, because it is safer than driving in an "enthusiast" manner than on roads, but these same principles apply to any driving situation. Doesn't just have to be tracks.

Sure, in my example with my Camaro - yes - it's easier to have more power, but that is just because most people drive like **** and the goal is to get around them. Simply trying to one-up each other with power instead of skill just leads to crashes at higher speeds. Easier is not better. It's just easier.

I have a friend who proved this point to someone by out-driving them at Sears in his Silverado 1500 while they were in their C5 Corvette. I had a pic of his truck in the hairpin, leaning so hard that the bed and body were not aligned but I cannot find it. This started with an argument at the track with a fellow who showed up in his Corvette and was pissed off that he was lumped in with all the "slow" cars, you know, since it's arranged by skill and experience instead of HP (HMMM I WONDER WHY THEY DO THAT. HMMM). If he could catch the fellow in the truck, he could be bumped up. He could not, and was not.

But, at the end of the day - drive what you like!!!

 

Hah that is where we differ..while it was fun takin out an old guy in an nsx in the z3 coupe, walkin on the young punk in his camaro ss in the z4m was waaaay funner haha

Adrenaline was pumping in the first scenario, but I was laughing out loud and giggling to myself in the second

 

Tons of people do, well tons of people that only ever drive in a straight line do. My n/a fc was easily the single most fun vehicle I have ever driven. Enough power to get going but not enough power to get you in trouble unless you were being wayyyyy ****ing stupid. I would rather drive a slow car fast over a fast car slow.


edit: wombatsauce said it perfectly, fast cars are definitely a ton of fun. Especially if you have the skill to utilize that power. Now getting put into something with 80hp that can't turn will suck obviously but put a miata up against say a 500 hp vette and you just might find that the miata will be "more fun" because you can just focus on driving on not wrecking the thing if you get a little to happy with the gas.

 

True dat. I've said that forever. The driver is the most important factor, not the car. ANY car can be fun once you figure out how to drive it. Lots of cars can be fast, but all out speed is not a guarantee of winning or fun.

I would love to have been there to see that vette not be able to pass the Silverado LOL.

 

Agreed!

 

Haha, who needs proof? My first car was a 1984 Subaru wagon gl with a whopping 73hp and 94 ft-lbs of torque. I pushed that thing to the limit! Doubled speed limits around turns, did donuts in open fields, jumped it 3 feet off the ground and dumped the clutch til the CV snapped Fun times but glad I've moved on to faster machines with more potential.

 

it's not that fast cars aren't more fun. it's about slow underpowered cars were also fun. it's just that everyone moved up to something better power wise. but i'm sure alot of people actually look back on the cars they used to have and loved but decided to get a better car or was just forced to under circumstances.

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I love my RWD RS. stock everything and it's a blast.

 

Back in 1993, I had a mk 1 Toyota MR2. At the same time, my dad had a V12 Jaguar XJ-S. His car was fun for 5 seconds on freeway on ramps. Everywhere else, the MR2 was much more fun.


If straight line acceleration floats you boat, why not get a motorbike instead?