I've spent my entire pre college schooling in private Christian schools, either Catholic of Lutheran, which is exactly why I am neither a Catholic or a Lutheran. Regardless of all the politics, scandles, mishaps, what have you, let the man pass in peace.

You never cease to amaze me Max

 

DUDE promise me you guys will put up a poll asking if u think im going to hell when i die!!!

 

o yeah if u guys have a problem with the threat, your supposed to VOTE NO

 

I guess that means Jimmy Carter is going to hell too.

 

good for him

 

Aside from people who have an imediate emotional response to this thread, I would like to express my deepest pride in you, Daredevil, you have posed a very thoughtful and provocative question to those who believe in such things as heaven, hell and men who are supposedly the creators "right hand man". Religious fanatics of all faiths often bite their tails when posed with such questions...good one, very deep and very good one!

As for Karma, which is where my spirituality lies, Daredevil should not fear, he has posed a serious question about a human, not a god or unearthly being, but a sentient being just like everyone of us. Buddah said ( I paraphrase and cannot remember the source) to question all religions and believe only what you could prove to yourself.
We should question the exaltation of a man whose title makes him no better than any man who helps another living creature who is in despair.If that man makes you proud, don't make him a saint, make him live forever by doing what he did that was good in your deeds.
No heaven , no hell, just us here trying to get along.
Good one , Daredevil

 

someone finally saw it my way

 

I edited some bad spelling.
But the thought is the same!

 

MAX! youre my boyfriend and i love you, but you are one of the biggest idiots I know. You pull things out of you ***....I bet you dont even know anything about the pope. Another thing, you got that urinary tract infection joke from someone at your work. Your arguments under evidence against him are completely false, and jaded. His illness and inability to travel was not a detrement to the church what so ever.... I bet you have no clue that he is actually the most well traveled Pope in many many many years, and that no one has even traveled as much as he had at all. For many years church and state have had parralels. Sometimes people have to stand up for things to get their way... dont say political policies were none of his business... he spoke his mind and did a lot for the people. Do some research before you decide to be a smart ***. Luv ya babe..... Mia

P.S..... He's going to heaven, whatever heaven is

 

Max is agnostic... maybe bad karma will follow him?

 

why, because you're a catholic?

 

um, he was a single man for years before he joined the catholic church...

 

w3rd

 

if im agnostic, why would i belive in karma?

 

Agnostic only means a person is unsure of the existence or nature of any supreme being, Karma on the other hand has more to do with the consequences of intention, so there is really no inherent conflict in being an agnostic who "believes" in Karma.

Although maybe you don't-, but you could have some belief in Karma and nobody should hold that against your agnosticism.