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Old May 28, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Racenut
The best thing Ed can do is not respond at all to your bull****. Maybe even hire an attorney to pursue a civil case against Dre for liable, and he could probably shut down i-club too if he found the right attorney. The owner of i-club should shut you the **** up dre before you start costing him money beyond the bandwidth you waste.
Just curious....I don't know how the legal system works, but how is the owner of this website in any way, shape, or form liable for what dre has posted? After all, it is a public forum...The owner does not have to sensor/moderate the content of whats posted on the site unless he wants to, right?

btw, Dre isn't an E-Thug, he's a g straight outta compton, he'll lay yo *** out.



ohh and btw, how is asking for a business lisence grounds to pursue a civil case? Doesn't EQ Tuning have to show his business lisence by law if asked for it? (Again, I don't know how the legal system works, I am just curious)

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Old May 28, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Hence why i am asking him to come forth and set it all straight, because from what he has told me DIRECTLY his story isnt panning out.

He told me via phone that he had a buisness license in danville. I called up danville they have NO RECORDS TIEING ED TO ANYTHING...

NONE

i tried all his known buisness names, and even his real name.. NOTHING

i am now asking him to come forward and set me straight before this goes any further.

Its pretty simple tell me the city, and buisness name it is under, i verify it and if it checks out i go away.

Doesnt get much simpiler..

And FYI i know for a fact he is allready violating one law, even if he is properly licensed and reports all his income properly.

So lets not take it that far if we dont have to.

and jermey, next time you are at the sho.. apartment take a picture of the buisness license he HAS to display for me. Then i will shut up....



so far nothing i have said has been proven false, if you can please prove me wrong, that is WHAT I AM ASKING FOR AFTER ALL...

read the whole ****ing thread you douche...

And before you go opening your ****ing mouth at least know wtf you are talking about..

Know what slander is, and know the difference between that and libel.

And then look at the current situation, i have exhausted every possible option i have to find out if my allegations are true or false, to date i have only collected information to support the claim that Ed is not operating a proper and legal buisness. I know for a fact he is in violation of several laws in the locality in which he operates and executes his buisness and services. I could if i wanted to be a huge dick shut him the **** down with a few more phone calls. BUT i have chosen to give him a chance to explain himself in public. And SET ME STRAIGHT.. that is all i am asking for.. is for him to come forward and tell me where he has his buisness license at. That is it at this point.. pretty damn simple, but his inability to answer that question, and his constant recruiting of forum goers to flame me to try and discredit me is pretty damn lame. All it takes is a city name and this all ends. But from what he has told me and others on this forum DOES NOT CHECK OUT. You can call up the city of danville and ask them any time you want..

So before you open your gaping ******* of a mouth, i suggest you do a bit of research, learn what the words you use mean would be a good start.
Old May 28, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 02BlackWRX
Just curious....I don't know how the legal system works, but how is the owner of this website in any way, shape, or form liable for what dre has posted? After all, it is a public forum...The owner does not have to sensor/moderate the content of whats posted on the site unless he wants to, right?

btw, Dre isn't an E-Thug, he's a g straight outta compton, he'll lay yo *** out.



ohh and btw, how is asking for a business lisence grounds to pursue a civil case? Doesn't EQ Tuning have to show his business lisence by law if asked for it? (Again, I don't know how the legal system works, I am just curious)
You don't have to moderate, but the fact is, i-club IS moderated. And even deleted several threads related to this already, which I think should have been done sooner, but at least it was done. So by allowing it to continue, it wouldn't be hard to argue that you are aware of it and allowing it. In a few cases, so called 'Staff Members' have sided with Dre.. so one could argue it's being supported. Would it hold up in court? Hell, I don't know... but even a half witted attorney could make sure the owner i-club spent enough money fighting it that it wouldn't be worth doing, and maybe enough that he wouldn't have any left to pay for bandwidth. I have no idea how deep those pockets are. As big an ******* as I think Dre is being, he doesn't compare to many attorneys I've known.

And yeah, the business license is supposed to be displayed at the place of business. Not sure if that means he has to offer it up for display over the internet though. Maybe if Dre went over to Ed's place, he could see it.

I have looked at the current situation Dre.... and if not for all the other bull****, the business license thing might be seen as just a curious question.. though I've never seen a similar question asked over the internet of any other vendor. You are on a witch hunt and you know it. Plain and simple. You can veil it behind so called legitimate questions, but you're just not going to stop until you feel Ed's reputation has been beat down to a level you are comfortable with.
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Racenut
So you're one of those that think the 1st amendment means you can say whatever you want whenever you want? You're an idiot. What it means is that the government can not dictate what you say. It means if you want to say George Bush is an asshat while standing on a soapbox on the street corner, the government can't persecute you for it.
I can say what ever i want when ever the **** i want, that is my right as human being. There may be actions taken depending on what i say and do but none the less i have the ability to say what the **** i want to who ever i want when ever i want. In this thread and mele i have only asked LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, and all i have gotten back is retards such as your self trying to spin it into some flame fest. This isnt a flame contest this is a LEGITIMATE QUESTION that ANY CONSUMER can ask ANY LEGITIMATE BUISNESS about. Dont belive me look at the following law.

http://commerce.ca.gov/state/ttca/tt...inessPath=appb

Sole Proprietorships

Local Requirements:

Sole proprietorships are not required to register with a local agency; but businesses and persons engaged in a profession or vocation as a sole proprietor must obtain a local business license or permit that is issued by the city or county in which the headquarters of the business is located. Since ordinances vary from city to city and county to county, it will be necessary to contact the business license section of the city or the county government. Firms which conduct business in more than one city or county may be required to have a license in each city or county. The business license must be posted for public display. Posting is also required of other locally issued permits pertaining to premise use, alterations, maximum occupancy, emergency exits, sanitation clearance, and permits issued by law enforcement agencies.
What it DOESN'T mean is that you can attempt to destroy someone's character or harm their business, that you can't be held civilly liable, or even criminally liable in the case of threats. Go into a movie theater and yell FIRE and then try to say it's your 1st amendment right.
I am not destroying anything, he is by not providing facts and responding to legtimiate questions and allegations. Pretty simple.. prove me wrong and then the legal liability of what i say falls on me. Its called burden of proof, look it the **** up. Right now the burden is on ED to respond to these legitimate questions, if he chooses not to and looses "standing, face, or respect" from the community or his peers, it is not my problem but his own due to his inactions.

I hope Ed does have a business license... if not, I hope he goes and gets one, it's not that hard. A little paperwork and $50 or so and it's done. And BTW dre, a business license doesn't have anything to do with filing taxes or ensuring any kind of quality work. It's just a revenue generator for the city it's filed in. You're just being a ******** because your panties are too tight and you need a hug.
I hope he does as well, but all the locations he has claimed to have one dont seem to have any records of him even being alive. Im not stupid, taxes is a seperate issue but in order to have a properly formed company and to properly conduct buisness the license is the first step, then comes all the seperate tax forms for each type of buisness, etc etc etc.. And i will chip in 20 bucks right now for his buisness license (no joke), and last i check it was only 35 in davis

No, I don't know Ed, I've never met or talked to him. It just pisses me off to see some ******** e-thug try to destroy someone's reputation because he's got a virtual beef with them over nothing more than personality. You don't like the guy.. he didn't blow up your car, he didn't even date your sister and break up with her. You just don't like the guy.
You are the only one trying to ethug, you dont even know wtf you are talking about for the most part, you have no understanding of the legal terms you are trying to throw around, you have no understanding of what is going on and most of all i can type a run on sentence the size of peru.

I have no personal issues with ed, in fact i would like to meet him someday in person.

The best thing Ed can do is not respond at all to your bull****. Maybe even hire an attorney to pursue a civil case against Dre for liable, and he could probably shut down i-club too if he found the right attorney. The owner of i-club should shut you the **** up dre before you start costing him money beyond the bandwidth you waste.

Bring it i say, waste your money away. Wont cost me a damn dime (oh the joys of having a lawyer as a gf, and a family full of lawyers behind you.

So again i suggest you look into the laws before you start pretending like you know wtf you are talking about. And the owner of iclub can do what ever he wants, it still wont end this as there are allread several ***** in motion, and more to be played. And alex has absolutely no liability in this case, even if ed was to try and shut the site down he wouldnt have a leg to stand on. THere is no libel, and no slander here. All that has transpired is me asking questions, and douches who dont understand much of anything trying to flame me for it.

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read a law book douche..

and please note the red underlines i made for you, let me know if you cant read i would be more then happy to draw you a picture..
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Racenut
You don't have to moderate, but the fact is, i-club IS moderated. And even deleted several threads related to this already, which I think should have been done sooner, but at least it was done. So by allowing it to continue, it wouldn't be hard to argue that you are aware of it and allowing it. In a few cases, so called 'Staff Members' have sided with Dre.. so one could argue it's being supported. Would it hold up in court? Hell, I don't know... but even a half witted attorney could make sure the owner i-club spent enough money fighting it that it wouldn't be worth doing, and maybe enough that he wouldn't have any left to pay for bandwidth. I have no idea how deep those pockets are. As big an ******* as I think Dre is being, he doesn't compare to many attorneys I've known.

And yeah, the business license is supposed to be displayed at the place of business. Not sure if that means he has to offer it up for display over the internet though. Maybe if Dre went over to Ed's place, he could see it.

I have looked at the current situation Dre.... and if not for all the other bull****, the business license thing might be seen as just a curious question.. though I've never seen a similar question asked over the internet of any other vendor. You are on a witch hunt and you know it. Plain and simple. You can veil it behind so called legitimate questions, but you're just not going to stop until you feel Ed's reputation has been beat down to a level you are comfortable with.
aware of what? allowing what? Legitimate questions to be asked of "commerical" entities? So you are saying that in your world no one should ever be able to question the legitimacy of another person or company?

Nice to know...

Please note where people have chosen sides. This isnt a us vs them deal, you are the only one attempting to make it that way with your ignorance of the topic at hand. This is ME (a concerned community mem) QUESTIONING the VALIDITY of another mem who has made several claims of his validity. All of which i have proven to be false up to this point. So i am now requesting him either give me more information or tell me what he can before i bring more authorities into the mix to figure it out for everyone. its pretty simple from what i can see he is in direct violation of several city, state, and possibly federal laws. Some of which may have LONG LASTING effects on his life. I would rather it not get to that point but you can bet your pretty little dress that if i dont get answers i am more then prepared to take this all the way. Even if it means "getting" lawyers.. Which mind you wouldnt cost me much in the way of time or money. All that is being requested here is INFORMATION that i can VERIFY that PROVES Ed is operating a LEGAL BUISNESS. That is it.. that is all nothing more nothing less. i have never stated ed wasnt capable of this or that, in fact i have stated that while he may be technical proficent and a good guy, that he needs help in setting up and operating a buisness.

Again please prove me wrong.. That is what i want and what i am asking ed to do.


and i dont care about his reputation at this point, his fan bois are the ones who have blown this out of whack by flaming me and challenging me. I will not back down, and since all of you people have only gone out of your way to attack me it has only driven me to get to the bottom of this at all costs. And seeing how it wont cost me anything and i dont have anything to lose that i care about i will go after it. I mean its not like i am asking something that is illegal or even remotely odd. Just want to know what city he has his buisness license in.. i dont even care if he has it displayed in his APARTMENT (which is whole nother issue in the city of davis).

and one more time for the peanut gallery

I will not stop until i have answers.. i am not the one destroying reputations, others via inaction or flames are doing that just fine.
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Old May 28, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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You don't think you fall under the "reckless disregard of whether it was false or not" part of that excerpt you posted???


...with the definitions being a bit subjective, you'd better hope there's a discrepancy in the talent of your respective lawyers...
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Absolutely not.. Show me how looking for an answer to a simple question is reckless disregard of whether it is false or not.. If anything all this hub bub i have drawn up was to make sure that ED is aware this question is being asked of him. You know beyond the phone call i made to him asking him about all of this.

I will continue to ask the question until it is answered, once it is i will move on simple as that.

This isnt that big of a deal, just one guy asking a "company" to provide it with basic information so that i can verify that it is infact a legitimate buisness to deal with. That is all, nothing more, nothing less.

So with that i am still waiting for an answer as to why the city Ed claimed to be licensed in has no records of him at all.

Maybe there is a disconnect and he meant danville, TN or something.. I dont know, that is why i am trying to get an answer from him. If anyone else can get that information for me i would appreciate it, of course it has more weight coming form the horses mouth..
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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My lord. Dre, did you get laid off again?
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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nope in fact i have been busier then ever.. haha just responding to the verbal barbs being thrown my way.

I still do not understand why all of EQ Tunings customers are attacking me, its almost as if Ed was talking trash to them about me or something..

*grins at IM logs he has*
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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...or are you trying to catch up to Zoeb's post count?
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
nope in fact i have been busier then ever.. haha just responding to the verbal barbs being thrown my way.

I still do not understand why all of EQ Tunings customers are attacking me, its almost as if Ed was talking trash to them about me or something..

*grins at IM logs he has*
Wasn't Ed trash talkin about you, TO YOU when he thought you were a potential customer?
Old May 28, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Enough...
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