Oil change
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Oh sorry, you said, should NOT be using it... I didn't realize that's so different from don't run it.
I find it funny that you downplay T6 but then run an out of spec oil filter like it's no big deal after emphasizing how important an oil filter is. You also state "All the "static testing" in the world means **** real world." So the thousands of UOAs of T6 with stellar results means jack squat to you because Shell says not to? (Which by the way, you have yet to produce any actual evidence of them saying it) Could you please explain your definition of "real world" is if it's not the oil being used in cars as daily drivers? IF Shell did say anything, it's just a CYA statement, because it is marketed and targeted as a diesel oil. They don't want any potential liability.
AFAIK, there is only ONE (two if you consider rebranding) oil filter not sold directly from Subaru that meets ALL OEM specs. (hell I don't even think the new Honeywell filters meet all OEM specs) Your K&N filter is not that one.
I find it funny that you downplay T6 but then run an out of spec oil filter like it's no big deal after emphasizing how important an oil filter is. You also state "All the "static testing" in the world means **** real world." So the thousands of UOAs of T6 with stellar results means jack squat to you because Shell says not to? (Which by the way, you have yet to produce any actual evidence of them saying it) Could you please explain your definition of "real world" is if it's not the oil being used in cars as daily drivers? IF Shell did say anything, it's just a CYA statement, because it is marketed and targeted as a diesel oil. They don't want any potential liability.
AFAIK, there is only ONE (two if you consider rebranding) oil filter not sold directly from Subaru that meets ALL OEM specs. (hell I don't even think the new Honeywell filters meet all OEM specs) Your K&N filter is not that one.
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Oh sorry, you said, should NOT be using it... I didn't realize that's so different from don't run it.
I find it funny that you downplay T6 but then run an out of spec oil filter like it's no big deal after emphasizing how important an oil filter is. You also state "All the "static testing" in the world means **** real world." So the thousands of UOAs of T6 with stellar results means jack squat to you because Shell says not to? (Which by the way, you have yet to produce any actual evidence of them saying it) Could you please explain your definition of "real world" is if it's not the oil being used in cars as daily drivers? IF Shell did say anything, it's just a CYA statement, because it is marketed and targeted as a diesel oil. They don't want any potential liability.
AFAIK, there is only ONE (two if you consider rebranding) oil filter not sold directly from Subaru that meets ALL OEM specs. (hell I don't even think the new Honeywell filters meet all OEM specs) Your K&N filter is not that one.
I find it funny that you downplay T6 but then run an out of spec oil filter like it's no big deal after emphasizing how important an oil filter is. You also state "All the "static testing" in the world means **** real world." So the thousands of UOAs of T6 with stellar results means jack squat to you because Shell says not to? (Which by the way, you have yet to produce any actual evidence of them saying it) Could you please explain your definition of "real world" is if it's not the oil being used in cars as daily drivers? IF Shell did say anything, it's just a CYA statement, because it is marketed and targeted as a diesel oil. They don't want any potential liability.
AFAIK, there is only ONE (two if you consider rebranding) oil filter not sold directly from Subaru that meets ALL OEM specs. (hell I don't even think the new Honeywell filters meet all OEM specs) Your K&N filter is not that one.
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A blanket statement of "the filter works on gas catted motors" doesn't mean it's the right filter for the application.
In case you missed it. There's only ONE oil filter that meets all required OEM specs that is not sold directly from Subaru. Your K&N filter does not meet those specs.
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No, it isn't going to get better. These threads go nowhere and that's why there are at least a few a year and they all end up the same way.
Last edited by 04GG; Jan 8, 2014 at 03:02 PM.
I would also like to know, though I use Subaru filters. As far as oil, I will have to call my mechanic and ask what he puts in my car. Since it really does not matter as it's tested by Blackstone every time, I don't care as long as it's okay for the car and the scientists agree. I trust what I read on my Blackstone output more than anything that could possibly end up in this thread even without some of the ridiculous things some folks have said here, and I am not sure why anyone would do anything else.
