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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Which brings me a thought I've had for a while:

Do you like competition (and the winning and arms race it brings) or do you like entertainment ( and the excitement of even racing where anything goes, but no advantage is really there)?

For me I like the competition. I understand that winning is everything and every advantage found will be used. Finding advantages is the key. Reading the rules and finding where you can bend them for gains is really the point.

So some folks keep winning. They have a good car, and in 2011 and half of 2013, RBR had the absolute best car.

I guess don't get why people knock them for that. To me, having the best car is the goal. The point. Its how you win. Its what every team in f1 wants. But not every team can get.
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And fuel management
oh yeah, forgot about the mileage competition
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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No you and the article are right, Red Bull does have the fastest car. But Hamilton beat Vettel, so we are agreeing that Hamilton is just a better driver than Vettel, thats the only explanation right?

dont worry, Im already warming up the excuse-o-meter machine for you
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Which brings me a thought I've had for a while:

Do you like competition (and the winning and arms race it brings) or do you like entertainment ( and the excitement of even racing where anything goes, but no advantage is really there)?

For me I like the competition. I understand that winning is everything and every advantage found will be used. Finding advantages is the key. Reading the rules and finding where you can bend them for gains is really the point.

So some folks keep winning. They have a good car, and in 2011 and half of 2013, RBR had the absolute best car.

I guess don't get why people knock them for that. To me, having the best car is the goal. The point. Its how you win. Its what every team in f1 wants. But not every team can get.
entertainment, I want V12s
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entertainment, I want V12s
Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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I dont like watching V6s, it doesnt feel like F1 to me. I am having a hard time watching it and being entertained by it.
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Is is just me, or did Bahrain turn into a night race?!

Cause I remember the times being like 5am, not 8am out here on the west coast.
Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Is is just me, or did Bahrain turn into a night race?!

Cause I remember the times being like 5am, not 8am out here on the west coast.
It's not just you. Bahrain was turned into a night race this year.
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It's not just you. Bahrain was turned into a night race this year.
So once people are done fighting with each other they can come enjoy the race?
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I knew it was a park, but I had no idea they bring everything in.
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Which brings me a thought I've had for a while:

Do you like competition (and the winning and arms race it brings) or do you like entertainment ( and the excitement of even racing where anything goes, but no advantage is really there)?

For me I like the competition. I understand that winning is everything and every advantage found will be used. Finding advantages is the key. Reading the rules and finding where you can bend them for gains is really the point.

So some folks keep winning. They have a good car, and in 2011 and half of 2013, RBR had the absolute best car.

I guess don't get why people knock them for that. To me, having the best car is the goal. The point. Its how you win. Its what every team in f1 wants. But not every team can get.
Why not both?

Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Is is just me, or did Bahrain turn into a night race?!

Cause I remember the times being like 5am, not 8am out here on the west coast.
Originally Posted by G_Ride
It's not just you. Bahrain was turned into a night race this year.
It is a night race. Crofty talked about it during one of the testing days.
Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JourdanWithaU

Why not both?

It is a night race. Crofty talked about it during one of the testing days.
They don't really go hand in hand, do they?

People say they want competition, but that drives someone to be the best. When someone ends up being the best, people get upset.

So people who get upset really don't want competition. They want entertainment, and the illusion that eveness and a championship down to the wire is competition.

That's how I see it. If being fast is the goal, how can we knock someone for winning?
Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:36 AM
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Everyone and their mom is asking me how I feel about the sound...

My answer is I only car if the cars go fast. That's all I care about.

Rules for the past 15 years have been designed to slow the cars down. Water down the speed and Performance. Recently, since 09, or so, they've really pushed to kill the aero off the cars.

All this to try to make cars slower and to increase passing. Increase the entertainment.

I'd much rather have open engine designs and go back to aero of 2006/2007. 3.0l NA and 1.5L turbo, do what you want.

Real constructors making their own stuff. What we have now is so much more like a spec series its disgusting.

I want fast cars. And I want to see the team who figures out the best to win a lot. Even of that's not RBR or vettel or kimi. I'd totally respect a 5x WC lewis. Its obvious that most people don't feel the same about vettel or Schumacher.

So vacuum cleaner engines? Whatever. Just drive the **** out of them.
Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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^^^ Why are spec series disgusting? Cuz you actually need to drive better than your competitors not just figure out how to make your car the fastest?

Not that spec series do not strive to be the fastest but when being the fastest on a given weekend your MAYBE a second faster per lap. Not 3 seconds per lap, every lap, and win by 20-30 seconds.

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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Everyone and their mom is asking me how I feel about the sound...

My answer is I only car if the cars go fast. That's all I care about.
They dont go fast. They sound like crap.



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