Nov 5th - send a message to the banks

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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One guy claims to have lost his virginity in the camp. I think it is safe to say there are multiple goals.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Really....

Ok lets see, who is responcible for all the bad loans...the banks? no...the people who applyed for the loans in the first place KNOWING they could not afford it.

Lets continue with this. Whos fault is it, when the credit limit is pushed and CC's are maxed out...the bank? NO...again people.

Placing the blaim on the banks is like saying guns kill people all by themselves. Yes teh banks have some culpablity in this, but the bigger problem are the idiots now standing up and demanding this and that.
Lets see where this comes from... OH YEA, CAPITALISM.

Dude @ Super-huge-ginormous-bank-man lends out houses that people can't afford. Now they're ****ING FINANCIALISTS, you realize that they should have responsibility for saying "Wait, if this **** defaults massively, or if housing prices go down, we're scroomed, bad business" No they didn't say that, they said.... THIS IS CAPITALISM, I'm going to make cash off this crap.

It's like dude @ bank has a bunch of alcohol ALLOWS everyone else to get drunk (ie. the consumer). Why? They wanted to get rich! Why else? What about responsibility?

Responsibility, of course there are a bunch of failures who couldn't afford a lot of stuff. But there is a HUGE FINANCIAL WTFNESS that is smart enough to know that, and instead of running a safe business, gambled for more cash with it?

I am pro capitalist, but guys who take advantage of the system and then cry for help when **** gets turned sideways and shoved back up their *** and gets help for is not it. They're "too big to fail" yea right.

If you have that many brains in a room, and have grown into a huge billionaire company, you might think JUST think to be a bit more responsible instead of greedy.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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I think the fact that people actually sell other peoples debt to make money is ridiculous! Also that they rate certain investments as AA rating when they are at high risk is messed up. This type of rating really messes with peoples 401k.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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For those people talking about having a hard time finding ATM's and a branch. Many of the major CU's in the Bay Area are Co-Op Network
Both branches and ATM's everywhere in the area including free use of the ATM's in 7-11 Stores
CO-OP Financial Services


On the other end - I encourage you all to read The Big Short by Michael Lewis It's the story of what really went on the the 2008 crash. Who got rich and how it happened. You'll be shocked at how dishonest and stupid the investment banks were/are.

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear

Ok lets see, who is responcible for all the bad loans...the banks? no...the people who applyed for the loans in the first place KNOWING they could not afford it. .
Dumbest thing I've seen today. Banks are a BUSINESS, if they hand out loans to people that can't pay them back, that is a bad business decision. Guess what: if you make bad business decisions, you get ****ed up. Problem here is that no one got ****ed up, no heads rolled, no one was punished commensurately with the amount of mayhem produced. Thus the rules are inconsistent, and that is the whole point.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Navy Federal Credit Union member since 2001
I'm a recent new member of NFCU! opened my checking account, savings, direct deposit, opened a cash rewards credit card, and even refinanced my auto loan. Great APR and dividend earnings

Closed my chase account today during my lunch.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Unit 91
I don't have enough time in the day.

I will say that a bunch of moronic, self-intitled twits that all think things should be handed to them and fail to consider the consequences of their actions will in no way influence any decision I make.

Ok, you put big banks out of business. I assure you that they have normal workers (branch managers, tellers, etc) that will now be out of work. You think they'll all find work? Negative. You've just added to the unemployment rate by failing to consider the whole picture.

Meh...
banks won't go belly up. they will just have to restructure so that they are competitive and as a result slightly less profit for their shareholders. Yes, banks employ many people but as I and many other consumers we look for advantages when we chose a bank/CU(low APR, no fee's, good service, etc)
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowend
For those people talking about having a hard time finding ATM's and a branch. Many of the major CU's in the Bay Area are Co-Op Network
Both branches and ATM's everywhere in the area including free use of the ATM's in 7-11 Stores
CO-OP Financial Services


On the other end - I encourage you all to read The Big Short by Michael Lewis It's the story of what really went on the the 2008 crash. Who got rich and how it happened. You'll be shocked at how dishonest and stupid the investment banks were/are.
I totally agree with the abundance of ATM's as a credit union member. In my area where I work there is a chase branch two exits away about a few miles away. Along my commute route(14miles) I have 2 to chose from. Now as a CU member practically every shopping center has at least 1 free atm available. I work in Fremont and the biggest intersection by me has 6 ATM's.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PArex
Dumbest thing I've seen today. Banks are a BUSINESS, if they hand out loans to people that can't pay them back, that is a bad business decision. Guess what: if you make bad business decisions, you get ****ed up. Problem here is that no one got ****ed up, no heads rolled, no one was punished commensurately with the amount of mayhem produced. Thus the rules are inconsistent, and that is the whole point.
Because the people who applyed for the loan in the first place are not to blame, poor them. They got tricked, they were just walking down the street when the mean ol bank people pulled them in and forced them to sign the loan papers without reading them.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Because the people who applyed for the loan in the first place are not to blame, poor them. They got tricked, they were just walking down the street when the mean ol bank people pulled them in and forced them to sign the loan papers without reading them.
Sure they're to blame as well. The problem is that the banks made a bad business decision by giving those loans, screwed themselves over in the long run, then went crying to the government for bailouts when **** hit the fan. So why are the rest of us paying for the bad decisions made by the banks AND by the people who got loans they couldn't afford?

-- Ed
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
Sure they're to blame as well. The problem is that the banks made a bad business decision by giving those loans, screwed themselves over in the long run, then went crying to the government for bailouts when **** hit the fan. So why are the rest of us paying for the bad decisions made by the banks AND by the people who got loans they couldn't afford?

-- Ed
Now that I can agree with, however the idiots calling for this Nov 5th crap, and the bigger OWS idiots don't get that.

They want the banks to be the bad guy, of course the people arn't to blame, they were tricked don't you know.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Now that I can agree with, however the idiots calling for this Nov 5th crap, and the bigger OWS idiots don't get that.

They want the banks to be the bad guy, of course the people arn't to blame, they were tricked don't you know.
Ah, but the banks are ultimately the bad guys. The people who took the loans they couldn't afford were gambling with their own money and credit. The banks, however, were making clearly bad decisions with their customers' money. Which is worse in your opinion?

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
Sure they're to blame as well. The problem is that the banks made a bad business decision by giving those loans, screwed themselves over in the long run, then went crying to the government for bailouts when **** hit the fan. So why are the rest of us paying for the bad decisions made by the banks AND by the people who got loans they couldn't afford?

-- Ed
+1 to this. I dont get it. You screwed up you suffer, why should I ?
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nslow_fast_out
banks won't go belly up. they will just have to restructure so that they are competitive and as a result slightly less profit for their shareholders. Yes, banks employ many people but as I and many other consumers we look for advantages when we chose a bank/CU(low APR, no fee's, good service, etc)
I know they won't. That was a bit extreme.

Do you think I just blindly chose a bank and credit union? No way, Jose. I'm an actual responsible adult. Imagine that.



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