Man dies after BART officer shooting (was: I really hope this ain't true...)

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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if you are a cop hatign hippie thats your deal, but if you dont presonally know what started this you have no more reason to ***** about it than anyone else.
^ huh? he never said he hates cops anywhere in this thread
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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you dont knwo the guy didnt say "if i get out of these hand cuffs i am gonna kill you and yrou family, "

clearly far fetched however just making a point

and it wasnt plural. people didnt get shot 1 person got shot and if he didnt run up on the cops trying to prove a point of be a big shot he wouldnt have been put in that situation anyway. i dont give a **** if your are white, black brown green pink purple retarded cripple hippie or whatever, if you approach a cop and he says back the **** up and you dont be prepared to deal with whatever comes yoru way, just like that cop should be prepared to deal with what ever happens when he whips out his gun.

IT TAKES 2 TO TANGO!!!!!
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish_car_B0mb
perhaps the cop had a reason to shoot him in the first place.
wow, that is quite a supposition to make . none of us were there, but you did see the video, right?
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish_car_B0mb
perhaps the cop had a reason to shoot him in the first place. were you there? no you werent so STFU.

the first guy doiesnt have a back story but if you are jumping on a cop car, yes you deserve to be shot for being retarded. you know you wouldnt be up on that cop car if you didnt have 200 people aroudn you egging you on so why would you be up there any other reason. **** you yoru shot, thanks for playing go jump on yoru own car you ghetto ****.

that is how i stand. if you are a cop hatign hippie thats your deal, but if you dont presonally know what started this you have no more reason to ***** about it than anyone else.
There was no reason for that cop to even pulling that gun out.

Lets face it, he killed that kid for no reason. He deserves to be locked up for a long time.

regardless of what happened, there is no justification for rioting. To use that kids death as an excuse is disgusting.
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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wow, that is quite a supposition to make . none of us were there, but you did see the video, right?
yes i did but thats my whole point. none of us were there.

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There was no reason for that cop to even pulling that gun out.

Lets face it, he killed that kid for no reason. He deserves to be locked up for a long time.

regardless of what happened, there is no justification for rioting. To use that kids death as an excuse is disgusting.
agreed, believe me in no way do i think what that cop did was right, i am just making a point no one knows wtf was going on in that moment.

but to use that as an excuse to act like a ****ing animal, like an uncivilized ****. **** on you

there are kids in Isreal playing in bomb shleters right now to stay entertained and we have people in a country that is free detroying public property over one person 99.7% of them dont know or have ever met in their lives.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Irish_car_B0mb
there are kids in Isreal playing in bomb shleters right now to stay entertained and we have people in a country that is free detroying public property over one person 99.7% of them dont know or have ever met in their lives.
you are totally right. see its all perspective. and they say americans dont understand irony.
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Originally Posted by Irish_car_B0mb
you dont knwo the guy didnt say "if i get out of these hand cuffs i am gonna kill you and yrou family, "

clearly far fetched however just making a point

and it wasnt plural. people didnt get shot 1 person got shot and if he didnt run up on the cops trying to prove a point of be a big shot he wouldnt have been put in that situation anyway. i dont give a **** if your are white, black brown green pink purple retarded cripple hippie or whatever, if you approach a cop and he says back the **** up and you dont be prepared to deal with whatever comes yoru way, just like that cop should be prepared to deal with what ever happens when he whips out his gun.

IT TAKES 2 TO TANGO!!!!!
Have you ever heard of the Use of Force Continuum? Obviously not, because you clearly have very little knowledge about law enforcement SOP. Because if you did, you would know there is ZERO justification in what that officer did. That individual officer was a danger to himself and others. I am glad to hear he resigned.

I doubt any of you know this, but from what I heard from someone who works for OPD, the BART Police didn't even inform OPD that there was an officer involved shooting until much later. They knew they F'd up from the get go.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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another point i have is what if that was never caught on tape. would any of this be going on. i almost wish that cop who tried to get the camera would have got it czu more than likely none of thsi **** would be going on right now
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Irish_car_B0mb
another point i have is what if that was never caught on tape. would any of this be going on. i almost wish that cop who tried to get the camera would have got it czu more than likely none of thsi **** would be going on right now
I'm glad you're a civilian and not in any position of authority.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Irish_car_B0mb
another point i have is what if that was never caught on tape. would any of this be going on. i almost wish that cop who tried to get the camera would have got it czu more than likely none of thsi **** would be going on right now
whoa dude. you cant be serious. if there was no tape, it doesnt mean that guy isnt dumb and not at fault.

also, there were bart station cameras, so that's a moot point. not to mention the violation of freedom of press.

what if this happened to someone you know (god forbid)? would you take this exact same stance given everything we've seen up to this point?

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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Have you ever heard of the Use of Force Continuum? Obviously not, because you clearly have very little knowledge about law enforcement SOP. Because if you did, you would know there is ZERO justification in what that officer did. That individual officer was a danger to himself and others. I am glad to hear he resigned.

I doubt any of you know this, but from what I heard from someone who works for OPD, the BART Police didn't even inform OPD that there was an officer involved shooting until much later. They knew they F'd up from the get go.
have you ever heard of the Use of Force Continuum? If you had you would also know that no one police agency adapts the same as another even though there is a general guideline.

Majority of my family is law enforcment including spouse since you decided to insert yoru knowledge of the "guideline"

and if you knew anything about it you would also awknowledge it says nothing of a weapons accidental discharge which is not covered in that for a reason.

The Use of Force Continuum is a general guidline. and if it werent for a video tape know one would have know otherwise what happend

from the video tape the officer followed all protocol except his baton which if it escilated one step on him he could have jusfied going to that step.

and lets quote something you said

I doubt any of you know this, but from what I heard from someone who works for OPD,
so you heard from someone who heard from someone...blah blah blah

and other knowledge you may want to know a police officer can unholster hsi weapon if receiving even verbal attack as a way to keep the situation from escalating. weapon can be drawn upon verbal or physical attack. not that it is right but it is their right

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Yin
whoa dude. you cant be serious. if there was no tape, it doesnt mean that guy isnt dumb and not at fault.

also, there were bart station cameras, so that's a moot point. not to mention the violation of freedom of press.

what if this happened to someone you know (god forbid)? would you take this exact same stance given everything we've seen up to this point?
no im not, however, if it wasnt caught on tape would it have become what it is right now... no it wouldnt. and as i have stated yes i believe this guy is a dumbass. and is 100% at fault. and if i did have it happen to someone i know it is all relative. what if anything happend to anyone someone knew would they keep the same stance as soemthing as exponential as this
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I'm glad you're a civilian and not in any position of authority.
as i am you, and if you are you should rethink your choice as well



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