Just a heads up, E85 is about to get alot more expensive..

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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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We need to tax outsourcing.
or let the market sort it out, look at whats about to happen in the document review business.
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We need to focus on American based technological advancement and product quality as well as product support.
thanks for that vague and amorphous goal.
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We need to stop focusing on running out of fuel and start focusing on ways to use less of it. And 30mph vehicles are not the answer... believe it or not cars have been getting that kind of gas mileage for 40 years... FOURTY ****ING YEARS!!!!!!!! They just wear out faster now.
most problems come down to issues of efficiency, so youre right on the money there.
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Maybe better and more public transit. Bart is 40 years old. Amtrac might as well be 120 years old.
Amtrak is a GSE, same as fannie mae, which is probably why its so ****ty... also, its only ****ty in california where we want to ride everywhere in our hummers. back east, Amtrak is great.
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Cost of new plant construction is INSANE and these old aging ones get more dangerous every year.

Try prying money out of tax payers hands to pay for a new plant that they've been tough to fear since birth.
try getting tax payers to fund anything in CA... oh wait you cant, because our process is completely ****ed. voters can approve anything they want without having to approve the bonds or levies to pay for it.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Frasier Tytler
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Amtrak runs right by my house. Train are usually half empty if not more.


As for goals... you're welcome. It would take a book to elaborate on what needs to be done in each area of technology. It seems to me to be a pretty clear summary.

Advance technology. Support said technology. Make good ****. Buy good ****.


The market only cares if profits are up. One way to show an increase in profit is to decrease output. A really fast way to save huge sums of output is to decrease wages... lay offs create bad press... bad press creates a decrease in market value (perceived). Outsourcing... jobs are still there on paper. No layoffs. No bad press. Not as large of a cost saving as job cuts but if you take in to account moves that some of the major players have made its a HUGE savings annually. Huge savings, increased profit, increased bonuses for the talking heads.

Example. (not totally accurate)

Move 60,000 jobs out of the country. Save $10 an hour per job. That's $80 a day per job. That's about $4.8 MILLION a DAY! Annually that's roughly... $1.5 billion annually.

SBC shrunk for nearly a quarter million employees to around 138,000 in the 7 years I was there. (SBC/AT&T/Pacific Bell)

Layoffs and outsourcing were king. Hell they saved about $20k a year on me alone. I quit... rest of the people in my position got canned. Only 10 of us in the entire company.
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try getting tax payers to fund anything in CA... oh wait you cant, because our process is completely ****ed. voters can approve anything they want without having to approve the bonds or levies to pay for it.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Frasier Tytler
word.
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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word.
We can't force America to like Dictatorship, but we can feed them doses of Socialism and one day they'll wake up and find themselves in a dictatorship.
Lenin said something to that affect.
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doesnt really affect me as i cant get e85 near me.. that was always my biggest compliant is that it was a hour or more away.. wanted to try it but not worth it to me..

i just got a email from a coworker/family member that says India has some company (i think its Dhata or something like that) coming out with a "Air car".. you fill up with compressed air and it has zero emissions.. lmao..

not to be off topic but the one thing i would like to see get into action is the oil and natural gas pipeline running from ND to NO that congress cant agree upon.. biggest oil field in the world and its in our own country and we cant seem to tap it..?

this whole thread reminds me of the commercial where they say what if everything ran on gas.. lmao.. i can see it now, everyone pull starting their computers.. lol
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i just got a email from a coworker/family member that says India has some company (i think its Dhata or something like that) coming out with a "Air car".. you fill up with compressed air and it has zero emissions.. lmao..

I saw these guys last year it Bonnieville. Its a cool idea to have a grown up AirHog, And one of the guys in the middle is a f1 crew chief.
Its going to take over night to charge the car up. Its not going to go over very well.

The public wants now. Not tomorrow morning. Until you get something that is now.. there is going to be a hard path to tomorrow.
Old Dec 30, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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If there were more E85 pumps around, I would have converted long ago... would love to have all that extra corn power but being tethered to one or two inconvenient stations sounds like a huge headache.

Looks like the beginning of the end for E85.
Old Dec 30, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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I saw these guys last year it Bonnieville. Its a cool idea to have a grown up AirHog, And one of the guys in the middle is a f1 crew chief.
Its going to take over night to charge the car up. Its not going to go over very well.

The public wants now. Not tomorrow morning. Until you get something that is now.. there is going to be a hard path to tomorrow.
from what i read it takes from 4-6 hours to "charge/refill" .. i agree with the public wanting now but this would be great for example in sf or la where you dont have to go large distances to get to things. thought it was a interesting idea..
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^ They showed that on "backyard inventors" or whatever and a guy was running his truck on wood haha....

Then they tore the guy down saying how unsafe it was to have a fire in the bed of your truck, how silly the idea was and how 'unclean' it must be, then they never aired that episode again.

Guess the gooberment types don't like the fact we don't need to pay for fuel for our cars. :tinfoil:
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prices went up tp 4$ in redwood city for e85 now, right when i convert tonthe stuff the price goes up haha good thing its not my DD anymore haha
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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prices went up tp 4$ in redwood city for e85 now, right when i convert tonthe stuff the price goes up haha good thing its not my DD anymore haha
Psshh no way! I might swap my motor for a 257. Unless you can build a 207 to run 91 with no issues.
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Psshh no way! I might swap my motor for a 257. Unless you can build a 207 to run 91 with no issues.
Just get jerry cans of 105 to up your octane.



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