...And most likely will be going away. This might not be the final nail in its coffin, but its damn sure the biggest

Congress ends corn ethanol subsidy | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

 

So sad lol

 

that sucks man,

 

it will go to like $4, it takes more energy to make e85 then you burn on a gal of the tuff haha

 

Regular gas is about to sky rocket too! Just read rumor of Iran blocking oil

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/wo...s-imposed.html

 

I saw 87oct fuel in Scottsdale two weeks ago at $2.87 a gallon. When was the last time you saw that???

I wouldn't worry to much about Iran and their oil. They have been locked down for years anyways. I didn't even think they could do any trading outside their borders with all the U.N. crap against them.

 

I'm sorry for the E85 convert folks... but we've gotta face facts, Corn based Ethanol is a stupid fuel. It's inefficient to make, inefficient to burn, hell the only real advantage it offers is higher octane
If E85 can't be viable without a subsidy, than it shouldn't be on the market.

 

Tell us how you really feel...

x1 I think your 100% correct!

 

****. Ej207's hate Cali 91oct. O well, I'll be getting the STi BRZ anyway

 

Im def not an E85 convert, but the biggest point that people seem to forget about ethanol is its a renewable resource while oil is a finite resource and will ALWAYS get more expensive, its completely shortsighted to compare them on their costs as of today, does nobody remember 2008?? You guys see how many cars china and india have put on the road and are planning to put on the road in the next few years? Not to mention we dont have to rely on imports from politically unstable areas, seriously, how bad is ethanol going to look if gas is $10 a gallon 5 years from now and is being rationed like it was in the 70s?

And as far as the whole argument about how much energy it takes to make E85, well its not likethe gasoline grows out of the gas station folks, they never seem to mention how much energy it takes to build giant oil rigs in the ocean or on the other side of the planet to suck it out from thousands of feet and ship it in a tanker, be refined, then truck to the gas stations. Yes Im sure it still is less than ethanol, but oil has had over a century of infrastructure built up around it, so of course its going to be cheaper for them than it is for the comparatively tiny ethanol industry, but that would all change the more people used it.

Oh and subsides? Because yeah, the oil company doesnt get any subsidies lol

Turn Off the Oil Subsidy Spigot

Long story short, I agree that E85 is far from perfect, but if you can think of a better renewable fuel that can replace gasoline with the least amount of change to how automakers build cars. I would like to hear it.

 

This reminds me of Daniel tosh's joke about it. Something along the line of "Ethanol is a dream, and a dumb one. My SUV doesn't run on corn." I butchered it but the way he put it had me rollin!

Anyway, carry on!

 

It wasn't about Iranian oil, just that they threaten to close off some of the passage ways in the gulf. Regardless they're bat s*** crazy out there. Makes me grateful for the soil I stand on Regardless of Cali's f***ed up rules

Enough of my straying from the topic at hand already!

 

I'm not e85 convert, but I agree with Krinkov on this.

 

Bingo!

 

Meh - there are lots of alternative fuels out there. E85 just got to be the primary one because of the corn lobby.
Propane is a much better fuel.