im 95% set on running an EL header now after all the feedback I got from this thread. NOW, I just gotta do some research on WHICH headers to get. I shootin for the Tomei EL but geez, its goin to cost me a pretty penny

Thanks to everyone that actually provided useful information that actually helped me out

 

baller !

 

not ballin, just realizing how much I could spend on my motor when I freakin stop buying wheels

 

You stop buying rims !? NEVER ! its lies ! i dont like it when people lie to me

 

The next stage of your enlightenment will entail you realizing how much you could be saving by switching to Geico!

 

^

 

With the APS track record of cracking, that was the allure behind the FR headers, those things are bomb proof.

Maybe APS got their act together with this revision.

 

EL all the way.so you loose a little of the rumble,big deal.if you want fast *** **** spool and topend thrust get a good EL and never look back.GT spec or gruppe S are very very good headers.got over 60k on mine and not one leak,crack or issue

 

^ one of the very few people with the gruppe suck header, i went through 2 in less then one year. I also know of about 10 people that have also had huge issues with them. I would say the best are tomei and Perrin

 

Why don't you just spend like 500 on a Perrin? TBH you will NOT feel any more gains going with any other header with your setup.

Also many people love the way my car sounds with it, even though I do not. At first I hated it and missed the Subie grumble but I am actually learning to love it.

 

wow your running all that and my car has 270hp, and 295tq (from Ed's laptop dyno) and I only have a turbo back (catted) and a MBC,

 

anyways i have searched and searched for a good header setup and everybody I talk to says go with the Tomei, either uel or el it's up to you.

 

I usually do not through my opinion in when it comes to this sort of thing but sine I have first hand experience I thought I would give it a shot.

At the shop we sell mainly three brands of headers APS, Tomei and Full Race. As far as the APS headers go unless there new redesign pans out I am very skeptical about selling there headers again. We have had nothing but problems with them cracking over the last few years. The Tomei headers on the other hand both equal and non equal length have given us no problems. The Full Race headers are very very nice and well made but way a metric butt load. We have had no problems with these headers either.

As far as power goes between the Tomei equal length and non equal length I have seen a little difference but not enough to warrant saying one makes more power then the other but then again not all the cars were exactly the same and we dynoed them on different days. I personally use the Tomei Equal length header on my car and have had great luck with is no problems and it makes great power across the power band.

I have found from talking to many people that everyone has had good or bad experiences with just about everything on the market. If I were the O.P I would talk to you tuner and tech see what there recommendation as far as headers go and then make your decision from there.

And that is my 2 cents