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Has someone been cited or warned by the police for this? I think there is some hi-tech machine needed to determine the beam angle of headlights, meaning not something that a cop can write you a ticket for on the spot. Just like a referee ticket, the cop knows there is illegal equipment and to verify that he is sending the vehicle to the referee. I think I saw something years ago about that and headlights.
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Originally Posted by Brfatal
Not needed. All HID kits are federally illegal. HIDs are only legal in the cars with them installed from the factory.
factory is a nono but usually only get pulled over for tints and no front plate and they wont bother with headlight cause cutting me some slack hahaha (in the rsx)
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States that basically EVERYTHING is illegal:
V C Section 24005 Sale Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
Sale, Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
24005. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer for sale, lease, install, or replace, either for himself or as the agent or employee of another, or through such agent or employee, any glass, lighting equipment, signal devices, brakes, vacuum or pressure hose, muffler, exhaust, or any kind of equipment whatsoever for use, or with knowledge that any such equipment is intended for eventual use, in any vehicle, that is not in conformity with this code or regulations made thereunder.
V C Section 24410 Single Beams
Single Beams
24410. Headlamps arranged to provide a single distribution of light not supplemented by auxiliary driving lamps are permitted on motor vehicles manufactured and sold prior to September 19, 1940, in lieu of multiple-beam road lighting equipment if the single distribution of light complies with the following requirements and limitations.
(a) The headlamps shall be so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity portion of the light shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of five inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes, and in no case higher than 42 inches above the level on which the vehicle stands at a distance of 75 feet ahead.
(b) The intensity shall be sufficient to reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least 200 feet.
Quoting the actual law usually helps prove your point.
V C Section 24005 Sale Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
Sale, Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
24005. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer for sale, lease, install, or replace, either for himself or as the agent or employee of another, or through such agent or employee, any glass, lighting equipment, signal devices, brakes, vacuum or pressure hose, muffler, exhaust, or any kind of equipment whatsoever for use, or with knowledge that any such equipment is intended for eventual use, in any vehicle, that is not in conformity with this code or regulations made thereunder.
V C Section 24410 Single Beams
Single Beams
24410. Headlamps arranged to provide a single distribution of light not supplemented by auxiliary driving lamps are permitted on motor vehicles manufactured and sold prior to September 19, 1940, in lieu of multiple-beam road lighting equipment if the single distribution of light complies with the following requirements and limitations.
(a) The headlamps shall be so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity portion of the light shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of five inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes, and in no case higher than 42 inches above the level on which the vehicle stands at a distance of 75 feet ahead.
(b) The intensity shall be sufficient to reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least 200 feet.
Quoting the actual law usually helps prove your point.
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^good thing our vendors state that their items are for track use onlythen!! lol but yea exhaust etc illegal too but so common now that they wont waste their time unless u go do something dangerous lol
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I was pulled over a week ago by Modesto Police Dept. and was warned about my HID lows and fogs. Thankfully my 25% tinted front windows were rolled down. I went and bought some Sylvania Silverstars for both and called it good. I was starting to get tired of all the problems I was having with my setup anyways
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I was pulled over a week ago by Modesto Police Dept. and was warned about my HID lows and fogs. Thankfully my 25% tinted front windows were rolled down. I went and bought some Sylvania Silverstars for both and called it good. I was starting to get tired of all the problems I was having with my setup anyways
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Originally Posted by WRX~Mike
I was pulled over a week ago by Modesto Police Dept. and was warned about my HID lows and fogs. Thankfully my 25% tinted front windows were rolled down. I went and bought some Sylvania Silverstars for both and called it good. I was starting to get tired of all the problems I was having with my setup anyways
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Also,
JDM WRX STI Headlights RHD to LHD Conversion Shields | eBay
HID foglights are sheer stupidity. No question about it. It's FAR worse than running them in your low beams because it makes them completely useless for their intended purpose (actually makes them dangerous in fog) and they glare a whole lot more.
Last edited by Brfatal; Oct 24, 2012 at 05:20 PM.
Why would I need to? They are factory HID headlights straight from Subaru.
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JDM WRX STI Headlights RHD to LHD Conversion Shields | eBay
HID foglights are sheer stupidity. No question about it. It's FAR worse than running them in your low beams because it makes them completely useless for their intended purpose (actually makes them dangerous in fog) and they glare a while lot more.
Also,
JDM WRX STI Headlights RHD to LHD Conversion Shields | eBay
HID foglights are sheer stupidity. No question about it. It's FAR worse than running them in your low beams because it makes them completely useless for their intended purpose (actually makes them dangerous in fog) and they glare a while lot more.
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States that basically EVERYTHING is illegal:
V C Section 24005 Sale Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
Sale, Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
24005. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer for sale, lease, install, or replace, either for himself or as the agent or employee of another, or through such agent or employee, any glass, lighting equipment, signal devices, brakes, vacuum or pressure hose, muffler, exhaust, or any kind of equipment whatsoever for use, or with knowledge that any such equipment is intended for eventual use, in any vehicle, that is not in conformity with this code or regulations made thereunder.
V C Section 24005 Sale Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
Sale, Transfer or Installation of Unlawful Equipment
24005. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer for sale, lease, install, or replace, either for himself or as the agent or employee of another, or through such agent or employee, any glass, lighting equipment, signal devices, brakes, vacuum or pressure hose, muffler, exhaust, or any kind of equipment whatsoever for use, or with knowledge that any such equipment is intended for eventual use, in any vehicle, that is not in conformity with this code or regulations made thereunder.
As long as the retrofits fit the DOT regulations, then I don't see what's wrong with retrofitting lamps.
Standard No. 108; Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
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Originally Posted by Brfatal
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HID foglights are sheer stupidity. No question about it. It's FAR worse than running them in your low beams because it makes them completely useless for their intended purpose (actually makes them dangerous in fog) and they glare a whole lot more.
HID foglights are sheer stupidity. No question about it. It's FAR worse than running them in your low beams because it makes them completely useless for their intended purpose (actually makes them dangerous in fog) and they glare a whole lot more.
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Originally Posted by seckSti
yea dont think people put hid fogs for practicality. i had them for looks cause the overlays gave it an ugly yellow color and changing bulbs didnt work so went with hid route. .
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