Crazy Subie build............ Carbon Subie
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01-09-2009, 04:19 PM
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I guess WRC does it for looks too. 
That should keep those EVO's in check.
WRC the new HIN.
Yes there is a reduction in weight. I have only test fitted the front pieces over the last week. to check for tire and suspension clearances. Its about 2/3 lighter then oem. You only gain weight on 1/4 panels as you are adding pieces to the car. I'm waiting on doors and dsus fastners before I install mine. I'm not molding or gluing my 1/4 panels on. I'm not sure on painting the car. It might or I might just drive it around a bit till I get tired of it then paint it... I already have the WRB in aircraft paint. Yes because even paint weighs allot. Bet you didnt think about that till now.
I have front bumper, fenders, 1/4 panels, rear bumper. I have my own hood, trunk,spolier and roof. I'm needing doors and looking for the lightest ones before buying.
Hell my carbon trunk - carbon wing is half the weight on the OEM unit and is a hell of allot stiffer across the wing.
As far as me "jocking" I am pointing out that a nice car has been put into a mag. And that allot of work has been put into this car. I'm also not trying to be a dick. But.. remeber .... There is allot of hard work into HIS taste. That should not be discounted from Your "new age chrome" thinking.
That should keep those EVO's in check.WRC the new HIN.
Yes there is a reduction in weight. I have only test fitted the front pieces over the last week. to check for tire and suspension clearances. Its about 2/3 lighter then oem. You only gain weight on 1/4 panels as you are adding pieces to the car. I'm waiting on doors and dsus fastners before I install mine. I'm not molding or gluing my 1/4 panels on. I'm not sure on painting the car. It might or I might just drive it around a bit till I get tired of it then paint it... I already have the WRB in aircraft paint. Yes because even paint weighs allot. Bet you didnt think about that till now.
I have front bumper, fenders, 1/4 panels, rear bumper. I have my own hood, trunk,spolier and roof. I'm needing doors and looking for the lightest ones before buying.
Hell my carbon trunk - carbon wing is half the weight on the OEM unit and is a hell of allot stiffer across the wing.
As far as me "jocking" I am pointing out that a nice car has been put into a mag. And that allot of work has been put into this car. I'm also not trying to be a dick. But.. remeber .... There is allot of hard work into HIS taste. That should not be discounted from Your "new age chrome" thinking.
Look at my car...2) WRC = HIN? Are you sure??
3) I never said it was the new chrome
4) Chrome is dope mang!
yee yee!
01-09-2009, 04:22 PM
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I figured with all you guys being around subaru so long you have seen or heard of Laun'sport. They make allot of wrc stuff for wrc.
01-09-2009, 04:25 PM
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MOST carbon fiber parts are not really carbon fiber. They are actually made of fiberglass. The manufacturer will build a part out of fiberglass and then lay a sheet of carbon fibers over the fiberglass. They then use a resin (similar to what's used on the fiberglass) to bond the fibers. So basically you are buying a fiberglass hood, which is actually heavier because there is now a layer of carbon fiber on top of the fiberglass.
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
01-09-2009, 04:27 PM
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I can tell you my carbon trunk savedme from a broken back. Now I only have 3 bad discs. two in my neck and one in my back.
My trunk bowed in 19inches feet pulling the trunk floor and latch with it before it snaped the latch and sprung back. Hell its still on my car.
Both Doc and estimator were shocked at how it took a 55mph hit for a stand still and did as little damage to me. My drivers seat broke in two places.
Its more then just looks. It about doing what you can afford. GST just went wide on their L. Before hand it looks a bit 70's toyota...
Weight and crash protection.
But I'm not here to argue.. Just dont discount the car. Lots of hard work andmoney has gone into it. And he as well as I use ours for more then HIN.
My trunk bowed in 19inches feet pulling the trunk floor and latch with it before it snaped the latch and sprung back. Hell its still on my car.
Both Doc and estimator were shocked at how it took a 55mph hit for a stand still and did as little damage to me. My drivers seat broke in two places.
Its more then just looks. It about doing what you can afford. GST just went wide on their L. Before hand it looks a bit 70's toyota...
Weight and crash protection.
But I'm not here to argue.. Just dont discount the car. Lots of hard work andmoney has gone into it. And he as well as I use ours for more then HIN.
Carbon does not bend much, it shatters like glass. That's why Indy cars blow into tiny little pieces
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
01-09-2009, 04:33 PM
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MOST carbon fiber parts are not really carbon fiber. They are actually made of fiberglass. The manufacturer will build a part out of fiberglass and then lay a sheet of carbon fibers over the fiberglass. They then use a resin (similar to what's used on the fiberglass) to bond the fibers. So basically you are buying a fiberglass hood, which is actually heavier because there is now a layer of carbon fiber on top of the fiberglass.
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
I'm not convinced that the Launsport stuff was dry carbon, just seemed too cheap of a price for it all be dry carbon. I believe it's wet carbon, just not with the fiberglass backed stuff. I'm really not sold that it's a prepreg CF piece of work. It may be vacuumed, but I highly doubt at the prices it been sold for that it's prepreg CF.
One reason I decided to go fiberglass on my fenders, just pay less, get the space I needed. I'm not going for perfection, I'm looking for function. I also wasn't looking for weight reduction, I'm smarter than that.
01-09-2009, 04:33 PM
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oh...god..
Dude.. I have a grip of carbon backround. I have been dealing with it for over 10 years. Hell I have BST carbon wheels on one of my carbon fiber clad motorcycles.
Comon ... We are going the wrong way now. Please explan my crash then? Why didnt it shatter? You can come take a look at it if you like. Still the same trunk,wing. You can see the clear coat cracks when you look close. You can also see the inside carbon spars that cracked and broke.
Why dont my carbon motorcycle wheels shatter when I hit a pothole? Why dont helicopters fall out of the sky with carbon rotor blades?
Carbon acts on two things. How is made. and Load paths...
Dude.. I have a grip of carbon backround. I have been dealing with it for over 10 years. Hell I have BST carbon wheels on one of my carbon fiber clad motorcycles.
Comon ... We are going the wrong way now. Please explan my crash then? Why didnt it shatter? You can come take a look at it if you like. Still the same trunk,wing. You can see the clear coat cracks when you look close. You can also see the inside carbon spars that cracked and broke.
Why dont my carbon motorcycle wheels shatter when I hit a pothole? Why dont helicopters fall out of the sky with carbon rotor blades?
Carbon acts on two things. How is made. and Load paths...
01-09-2009, 04:35 PM
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What exactly does Laun'sport make for WRC? They make WRC replica paneling and such but not anything that I have ever heard or seen ran on a WRC car, certainly not a Subaru.
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01-09-2009, 04:36 PM
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Thats why this kit cost so much. Its hand made and fits the best I have ever seen. Which is why I bought mine and not cheap knock off's. That price was not shipped.
I figured with all you guys being around subaru so long you have seen or heard of Laun'sport. They make allot of wrc stuff for wrc.
I figured with all you guys being around subaru so long you have seen or heard of Laun'sport. They make allot of wrc stuff for wrc.
yes we have heard of launsport in japanthey sell full replica cars
i thought prodrive did thier own thing to the body not launsport
01-09-2009, 04:37 PM
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MOST carbon fiber parts are not really carbon fiber. They are actually made of fiberglass. The manufacturer will build a part out of fiberglass and then lay a sheet of carbon fibers over the fiberglass. They then use a resin (similar to what's used on the fiberglass) to bond the fibers. So basically you are buying a fiberglass hood, which is actually heavier because there is now a layer of carbon fiber on top of the fiberglass.
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/artic...bon-fiber.html
But .... Laun'sport stuff is not. You'll see my car when its done.
01-09-2009, 04:38 PM
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oh...god..
Dude.. I have a grip of carbon backround. I have been dealing with it for over 10 years. Hell I have BST carbon wheels on one of my carbon fiber clad motorcycles.
Comon ... We are going the wrong way now. Please explan my crash then? Why didnt it shatter? You can come take a look at it if you like. Still the same trunk,wing. You can see the clear coat cracks when you look close. You can also see the inside carbon spars that cracked and broke.
Why dont my carbon motorcycle wheels shatter when I hit a pothole? Why dont helicopters fall out of the sky with carbon rotor blades?
Carbon acts on two things. How is made. and Load paths...
Dude.. I have a grip of carbon backround. I have been dealing with it for over 10 years. Hell I have BST carbon wheels on one of my carbon fiber clad motorcycles.
Comon ... We are going the wrong way now. Please explan my crash then? Why didnt it shatter? You can come take a look at it if you like. Still the same trunk,wing. You can see the clear coat cracks when you look close. You can also see the inside carbon spars that cracked and broke.
Why dont my carbon motorcycle wheels shatter when I hit a pothole? Why dont helicopters fall out of the sky with carbon rotor blades?
Carbon acts on two things. How is made. and Load paths...
Hell the hoods I was working with for civics had buckle zones in them like stock hoods so in a collision your hood doesn't smash through your windshield or prevent your cars built in safety features from protecting you.
F1 cars explode because they are DESIGNED to do that to take as much force as possible from the driver.
Other cars run CF chassis that are stiff as hell and don't "explode" on contact.
01-09-2009, 04:38 PM
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Subarus in WRC have metal body parts if memory serves me right, but you know how getting older is.
