is the crashed STi at the drive from BAIC?

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Old May 22, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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yeah, it definately left me in shock for the day. I've never witnessed a crash like this, thanfully the tree stopped his car from going down even more though.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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how do you crash... seriously.. unless you get a blow out or something screwy... it shouldnt happen.
WTF? ummm...possibly not everyone is perfect and people make mistakes. It only takes one. Sometimes you come ok sometimes you don't.



I'd say like everyone else is saying...1200 miles on the car...that means that if it was broken in correctly it only had 200 real miles on it. Not much time to get used to a car to a point where you can really push it....my opinion that's mistake number one. Going on a mass drive...in the rain...with a new car.

Second..the tires. Maybe the driver wasn't aware of how poor the RE070's do in the rain. I myself haven't had trouble with mine but I don't really push them that hard in the rain and I have 73000 miles behind the wheel of my car.

Third. It was raining. Not hard for a minor mistake like a lift then overcorrect to take you off the road.

Fourth. Maybe the guy was talking to his buddy and lost focus and just lost control.

Fifth. it was a group drive. Pretty much every single group drive I've been on has lost a car. Often noobs but not always. Not hard to get overconfident or get pushed to keep up with people or not hold back. Easy mistake to make...push to hard in just such a situation. I nearly stuffed my car going from about 130mph to 40mph on the first mt. hammy drive I went on.

sixth. **** happens.


give the guy a break. Lots of things can go wrong..and some did.
Old May 22, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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hope this will not happen during the mt.hammy =\
Old May 22, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Well said
Old May 22, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Old May 22, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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That sucks - I've had my 04 STi for 3 years (as soon as July rolls around it will be 3 years). I've driven a total of 25k miles on my RE070's and haven't broken traction in the rain (except for one time, when I purposely put my foot into it in 3rd during a corner). I will say this: with the RE070's feeling the way they do at 45 mph when you hit standing water should have been enough to make the driver understand that these tires aren't meant for wet roads. On dry, the RE070's are awesome, but in wet, I'd hessitate to go faster.
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That sucks - I've had my 04 STi for 3 years (as soon as July rolls around it will be 3 years). I've driven a total of 25k miles on my RE070's and haven't broken traction in the rain (except for one time, when I purposely put my foot into it in 3rd during a corner). I will say this: with the RE070's feeling the way they do at 45 mph when you hit standing water should have been enough to make the driver understand that these tires aren't meant for wet roads. On dry, the RE070's are awesome, but in wet, I'd hessitate to go faster.
charlie...you drive slower than my grandpa on sunday morning.
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lol, pwnt!
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:rotfl: I knew one of you would do it sooner or later, I could barely resist
Old May 22, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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charlie...you drive slower than my grandpa on sunday morning.
I drive fast when I'm alone - less chances of bringing anybody else into MY possible accidents. This is why everyone knows me as "the slowest driver" around. :P
Old May 22, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Wait. How fast do you guys go on the Mt. Hammy drive? 130? yikes. On twisties? if so. i think ill stay somewhere in the back
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this is why they called... ACCIDENTS
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
WTF? ummm...possibly not everyone is perfect and people make mistakes. It only takes one. Sometimes you come ok sometimes you don't.



I'd say like everyone else is saying...1200 miles on the car...that means that if it was broken in correctly it only had 200 real miles on it. Not much time to get used to a car to a point where you can really push it....my opinion that's mistake number one. Going on a mass drive...in the rain...with a new car.

Second..the tires. Maybe the driver wasn't aware of how poor the RE070's do in the rain. I myself haven't had trouble with mine but I don't really push them that hard in the rain and I have 73000 miles behind the wheel of my car.

Third. It was raining. Not hard for a minor mistake like a lift then overcorrect to take you off the road.

Fourth. Maybe the guy was talking to his buddy and lost focus and just lost control.

Fifth. it was a group drive. Pretty much every single group drive I've been on has lost a car. Often noobs but not always. Not hard to get overconfident or get pushed to keep up with people or not hold back. Easy mistake to make...push to hard in just such a situation. I nearly stuffed my car going from about 130mph to 40mph on the first mt. hammy drive I went on.

sixth. **** happens.


give the guy a break. Lots of things can go wrong..and some did.
I don’t think people are arguing about your points. Most of the first posts in this thread were trying to use the tires as an excuse, like the guy did nothing wrong.

I am pretty sure something did go wrong, like he drove past his safety limit or something was beyond his control.

No one is arguing that

I have a problem when people wreck and try to blame something other then what really caused the accident.. driver error. Of course there are sometimes there is nothing you can do (like when I laid down my first bike on an onramp because I hit anti-freeze, not much you can do there since I was in shorts and not going to put a knee down to keep it up) but I would say 90% of the time its your own fault that caused it. There have been a few minor accidents in the SRIC when people have gone on drives, but it was people putting cars into snow banks and a few scraped bumpers and bent fenders, but not once have I heard people say anything about it was not their fault and how if they had different tires or different equipment they would have been fine.

Just because it was raining and he was on 070s was not what caused the accident. Possible it could have helped reach the end result, but the fault lies with the person that was pushing his vehicle past his ability.
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hmm.. maybe I am seeing things.. but that road in the pics looks pretty dry.. and I don't see any rain on any of the cars
Old May 22, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Onizuka
I drive fast when I'm alone - less chances of bringing anybody else into MY possible accidents. This is why everyone knows me as "the slowest driver" around. :P

sure bro, whatever helps you sleep at night



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