I was just gonna post that link. That cop is screwed. What a dumb ***.

 

If he did that he would be in jail. Not saying I disagree with you in theory but the reality is if he was weaving back and forth running over multiple bikers and then gunned down half of them, he would be rotting in jail for the rest of his life.

 

Depends, if he could prove he feared for his life, and that he tried to get away and they trapped him in. I don't think any jury could convict him, I know I wouldn't. Just on the GP alone I would vote not guilty all day long.

Hey, getts got away with it.

 

+ eleventy billion

 

I get defending your family. But I guarantee you that if he had backed up and then run over a bunch of people and intentionally swerved to hit people... etc... or exited his vehicle and started shooting at people.... he'd go to prison. Period.

There were cameras all over the place.

A jury will support what he did. He drove strait... he sped away... in a straight line. He exited the freeway to a public place as quickly as possible. What he did was clearly the right decision in this case.

But going out of your way to kill people is murder. If he got out of his car and just started shooting at people that were around him he's no different than they are... in fact he becomes the attacker not the victim.

It's stuff like this that makes people fear fire arms in the hands of civilians.


I can understand how it would be "justifiable" but it doesn't make it legal or right.


So I can understand and agree in principle. I'd have no bad feeling with anyone related to this attack getting smashed but once you go out of your way to harm people you become the attacker. The law supports that pretty clearly.


My comm teacher in college had a brother doing 25-life in prison. He was a biker. Got a phone call that a few guys were coming to kill him. Instead of calling the cops or leaving he sat in a chair with a shotgun in his hand. Dude stuck his head in the window and he blew it off.

At that point he became a murder. Why? Because he had other choices. He laid in wait and he blew a dude's head off.

Was he right to do it? Yeah probably. They would have gotten him sooner or later. But legally he was wrong. So now he's doing life in prison and there is someone on his parole board who hates bikers and won't let him have parole.

Just because it feels right or might be necessary doesn't mean it's legal.

Now had the above guy say...waited until the guy was completely in his house and caught him in the hall way... probably would have walked.

 

Didn't happen in this state then, we in CA do NOT have a duty to retreat, so even if you know for a fact someone is comming we do not have a legal duty to call LEO, or try to get away, we can stand our ground and use any/all force up to and including lethal force to defend our lives.

The only criteria in this state, is that you be "in fear of your life" and the great thing is, you don't have to prove that, the DA is required to prove you were NOT in fear of your life.

Know your rights folks, especialy in this screwed up state, it may save your life and freedom one day.

 

yes it did.

It occurred. Was tried. And he currently resides in prison... in california.


You don't get out of your vehicle and start shooting at people when you're in fear of your life. All they have to do is prove you thought about what you were doing and you went out of your way to actually attack someone.

Running someone over that's directly in front of you is a lot different than exiting your vehicle and shooting people... none of those people have shown you a weapon and about 5% of them are directly involved with the attack.

You go ahead and go mad max on the freeway next time you "fear for your safety". I'll follow your case on yahoo.



We do have laws protecting us when we're under attack or duress. There are also laws against murder. Once you cross the line to attacker you're a murder. You smoke someone in your bedroom... that's fine. Protected. You chase that person out of your house and shoot them as they're getting in their car... murderer. The line was crossed.

 

Undercover cop involved has been arrested.

NYPD undercover officer arrested in SUV-motorcycle gang attack - CBS News

 

 

Anyone else watch the original vid and think that he was forced off of the freeway? I noticed it when they all start slowing down before he exits. It looks like the bikers made a wall on the RR driver's left side so he could only go right at the split.