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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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I think people got confused when some of the car show contestants got their tickets and some of the volunteers saying tickets will be mailed but they didnt say Car show contestants who bought tickets will be the only one getting their tickets mailed to them. I was confused at first until i asked matt about the tickets.
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Giibo
Props to the food prep team - it's a tough gig to try to feed 300+ people! As Roo mentioned, I would think it would be a lot less stressful to have paid chefs or food vendors at the event. At various special events I've worked, the promoter either sells pre-paid food tickets for profit or takes a cut of the vendor's sales. That could be a less hectic/stressful option for next year.
I'm planning on having hired chefs to cook next year. We will regulate the food sources, we will buy on spec, given the history of the event, and we will carry a large portion of the responsibility for having enough food for the event.

We cannot have the event catered due to day of event sales. There isn't a caterer I know of who would be willing to buy over 100 lbs. of meat on spec on our word that there would be 100 plate sales on the day of the event.
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xhengmanx
I think people got confused when some of the car show contestants got their tickets and some of the volunteers saying tickets will be mailed but they didnt say Car show contestants who bought tickets will be the only one getting their tickets mailed to them. I was confused at first until i asked matt about the tickets.
Sorry it was confusing to some, but it was not only mentioned in the official BAM info thread, but I also made an effort to reiterate how tickets sales were being handled.

https://www.i-club.com/forums/bay-ar...%2A%2A-233024/
The event center opens for general ticketholders at 11:00 a.m. with a will-call table at the front door. Tickets will be held under your real name, and ID may be requested to retrieve your tickets.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/bay-ar...7/#post3108507
Originally Posted by pleiad7
Tickets will be held at will-call, UNLESS you've entered into the car show. In that case you should receive them in the mail along with your car show slip.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/bay-ar...%2A%2A-233713/
Unless you're a vendor or entered into the car show, DO NOT expect your tickets to show up in the mail. All pre-sale tickets WILL BE WAITING AT THE WILL CALL TABLE at the event entrance tomorrow.
By all means let me know if you have any ideas how it could've been communicated better.
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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I retract my statement XD sorry =[
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xhengmanx
I retract my statement XD sorry =[
Maybe if we could've had the BAM info thread stickied... by the time the event rolled around it was buried on page 3 or thereabouts. Then again, no one ever reads the stickies either.
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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i though it was a good show. i think that even if the music was that loud, it would have been okay if it was just outside, and not inside the echoing hanger. and if the music choice was different. were not in the 80's anymore ( no offense to anyone ) the meat couldve been served with a1 and it wouldve been fine. but those are all small stuff that i really didnt care too much about. i still had a good time. thanks to EVERYONE who contributed! id do it all again if i could!
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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I think some of the overly charred pieces of tri-tip couldn't be helped. Anthony told me about the grill flare up where the cook had to save some of it with just a pair of mechanics gloves and grab it out of an open flame. On top of that, meat needs to rest anyway for carry over heat. I think having the DJs facing the hanger without a proper sound check to see if it's too loud was kinda bad, but adjustments come with trial and error anyway. The hanger just echoed the music a lot louder than it normally did when we used to have these events in an open area like an outdoor park.
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Roo
There was an itinerary for the day - however with no chefs to man the BBQ grille, the grille being fired up an hour later than expected, and the grill being too hot to use for the first hour - all contributed to not being able to cook the amount of food that we required to serve food at the 12:15 (planned) foodservice schedule.
I understand the fiasco with the grill, but there was no announcement to either explain what was going on or any assurance that the food would be served at a timely fashion.


Originally Posted by Roo
I can understand why the judges wouldn't necessarily answer questions about their judging. Can you imagine the amount of time it would take to explain their decisions to 26 contestants? It's difficult enough scoring all the cars, finding the best of each category, among the many great cars...I thought I had it hard answering numerous emails and PHONE CALLS asking me, "I ordered tickets - where are my tickets?" when I mentioned numerous times that the tickets were set up in will call...
All I'm saying is a piece of paper left behind for the owner of the car to see the marks for each catagory would have eleviated most questions.

Not trying to be harsh here. This is only feedback to help for next years Meet.
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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i loved the location but it would have been sweet to have somehow fit more cars back near the doors of the hangar, i enjoyed looking at the parking lot cars just as much as the show cars. so it would have been sweet to have had that whole open area in the back for people to park too. even if it were for like a vip area like 5 bucks a person to just park back there. just my .02
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:39 PM
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Overall good event (then again, my first BAM so nothing to compare it to). My 2 cents:
1. I ate as #46 and got one rib and 2 pieces of meat. The meat I had was fine and was just enough to not be hungry/almost full. Some sauce (a1, bbq, something) would've been nice to have available. Also, some sides would've been good like bread, mac salad, mashed potatoes, something.
2. It would've been nice to have a speaker out in the front parking lot just so people could hear announcements for food (instead of having to walk back in and out to check to see what number they're on) - but this might not have been feasible since the dj booth to the front lot was pretty far
3. announcements - it would've been good to have someone just give small updates about the food being late, reminding people how food would be distributed by ticket #, etc.

As for the music, turning it down and raising the speakers above people's heads would've helped. These are just minor things. I had a great time and had fun. Looking forward to next year. Thanks again to Greg and all of the volunteers!
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 12:30 AM
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I will join in commending and congratulating everyone involved in putting together the event. My only major issue was with the car show as well.

In summary, I drove away with impression that it lacked transparency [especially in judging], organization and communication.

I will discuss these in greater detail with Matt when I have a chance. I very rarely frequent this forum, so I want to make sure some of my issues were not caused by inadvertent ignorance of already disclosed details [and I rather do it in person over coffee than over a keyboard].
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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Actually one other comment now that I think about it...Things would have went much smoother if there was a dedicated event "customer service" station that acted as a buffer/point contact between the organizers and attendees' questions/concerns.

For example, I am sure Roo would have appreciated not being yanked 1,000,000 times from the grill to answer when food will be served or where are the t-shirts.

Plus, I really did not enjoy hearing "I don't know because it is not my job/responsibility"..."hey, I am only a volunteer, I have no clue"..."try to find [name] and may be ask them" (last one especially helpful as I don't know that many people in the community).

I manage/restructure companies for a living, so I can't help such mentality applying in social life as well
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ChasedPhotog
This being my 1st BAM and 1st large Subaru meet I believe it went pretty well. The Issues I had had been addressed so no need to bring those back up. I think these items should be looked at atleast:

1. Itinerary/schedule for the day - I'm not quite sure if there was one and/or if it was followed close to the letter. I heard from by standards that the show was supposed to wrap up around 3 and the raffle and awards started around 3:30. And if there was a schedule there should of been someone like a Pit Boos a.k.a Announcer to announce when judging began and ended and over-all announcements. There wasn't any announcement of a raffle being held or happening at the show until the DJ said it was over. The award announcments could of been handled better with some kind of flow and closing statements.

2. Judging - I had heard from a few people that part of the judging staff had previous issues with others that had their cars in the show, thus leading to bias decisions. Then when the contestants wanted to figure out why they got the score they got, the judges would bypass the question. I know 2 or 3 people who would of loved to have atleast a copy of the score cardso they could improve for later shows.

other than that, the view was amazing, the location was spectacular, the vendors were knowledgeable, the staff did a good job, and the weather was enjoyable.
the only person that had a subaru on the judging staff was me sandra the other judge is a mr2 owner and rally enthusiast who i know to be very non bias. the fact that i might be bias i can see but i have no issues with anyone on i-club or in the car show as far as i know, also i didn't know half the owners of the cars that were in the show. but i have no problem recuse self next year, which i was already planning on doing organizing this thing was hard enough. if anyone would like there final score or the judge Criteria please pm me or if you want to talk in person im always at the Wednesday night meet in fremont. thanks for your input
Originally Posted by LxJLthr
I will join in commending and congratulating everyone involved in putting together the event. My only major issue was with the car show as well.

In summary, I drove away with impression that it lacked transparency [especially in judging], organization and communication.

I will discuss these in greater detail with Matt when I have a chance. I very rarely frequent this forum, so I want to make sure some of my issues were not caused by inadvertent ignorance of already disclosed details [and I rather do it in person over coffee than over a keyboard].
you have my # give me a call anytime i will be happy to talk to you about any ? you have about scoreing
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Overall not too shabby.

More activities would have been good. TBH I didn't have high hopes for the rollover simulator when I first saw it, but after going for a roll it was pretty awesome.

The food was interesting, I ended up with 3 little pieces tri tip, one was under cooked, one just right, and one over cooked. The ribs were good. Not usually a rib guy but the ribs I got were pretty good. The salad was aight. Where did you get the cookies?! I was expecting to be run of the mill crunchy crappy cookies. As soon as I bit into one it was soft and delicious!

The Carshow was also interesting. Kinda disappointed but glad I participated in it.

The raffle itself I thought went really smooth. But there was some confusion on what people expected the prizes to be. Regardless, huge thanks to the vendors for bringing in their products and services for the raffle.

The location was awesome. It was actually cold, even though there was the troll-overcast. I think almost everyone got sunburned.

Like most have said, the DJ wasn't great. But imo, better than nothing.
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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I thought the DJ played a good mix of genres...

Were you guys expecting top 40 or oontz oontz?



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