Forced Performance is Selling Taiwanese turbos
08-30-2007, 02:33 PM
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Forced Performance is Selling Taiwanese turbos
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/.../usabalrt.shtm the standard for saying that something is "made in the USA"
this is the best part:
If you believe that a product promoted as "Made in USA" is not America-made or contains significant foreign parts or processing, file a complaint with the FTC. If you are aware of import or export fraud, call the U.S. Customs Service Commercial Fraud Hotline, 1-800-ITS-FAKE.
here's an example on the FTC's site:
Example: All the major components of a computer, including the motherboard and hard drive, are imported. The computer’s components then are put together in a simple "screwdriver" operation in the U.S., are not substantially transformed under the Customs Standard, and must be marked with a foreign country of origin. An "Assembled in U.S." claim without further qualification is deceptive.
"THIS AUTO PART CONSISTS OF 100% FOREIGN PARTS CONTENT AND IS ASSEMBLED IN THE USA"
OR
"We make every widget in our 90000 square foot warehouse, which is NOT located in CHINA!"
this is the best part:
If you believe that a product promoted as "Made in USA" is not America-made or contains significant foreign parts or processing, file a complaint with the FTC. If you are aware of import or export fraud, call the U.S. Customs Service Commercial Fraud Hotline, 1-800-ITS-FAKE.
here's an example on the FTC's site:
Example: All the major components of a computer, including the motherboard and hard drive, are imported. The computer’s components then are put together in a simple "screwdriver" operation in the U.S., are not substantially transformed under the Customs Standard, and must be marked with a foreign country of origin. An "Assembled in U.S." claim without further qualification is deceptive.
"THIS AUTO PART CONSISTS OF 100% FOREIGN PARTS CONTENT AND IS ASSEMBLED IN THE USA"
OR
"We make every widget in our 90000 square foot warehouse, which is NOT located in CHINA!"
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Edited Pending Full Turbocharger Test. Results To Follow.
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08-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Sorry to hear about your frustrations. You mention FP being deceptive --while there are many other companies similar in the automotive parts industry -- so why the projection all on FP?
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If this is true, one can hardly blame FP.
Customers are too occupied with low prices & not high quality.
FP has to stay competitive while maintaining a profit to stay in business.
Hence, you get cheap parts.
It seems like FP is simply providing what the market wants.
Customers are too occupied with low prices & not high quality.
FP has to stay competitive while maintaining a profit to stay in business.
Hence, you get cheap parts.
It seems like FP is simply providing what the market wants.
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while I dont agree with the OP projecting all the blame on FP, I do however agree that they are being a "little" deceptive by not divulging where the 18G turbos are from, If in fact that is the case, from a non-reputable source
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08-31-2007, 02:04 PM
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It is true that the automotive aftermarket is kind of a grey area when it comes to this, but is that really the way it should be?
It's really a matter of lying about a product to add value. Consider how much a turbo from taiwan is worth versus a turbo that forced performance makes. Big ethical problem, and it's the same one that you see with ebay chinese turbo sellers.
People used to go on ebay and sell "garrett t25" turbos. Well, this was only because you can get more money for a garrett turbo than you can for a chinese t25. How do you increase the value of your product on ebay? Lie about it. Same kind of thing here.
If you went to pep boys and paid extra for the "made in the USA" brake pads because they were made in the USA, wouldn't you feel ripped off just a bit? If the parts cost the same, you would just feel lied to. If you paid a premium for something that was just a lie......
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Edited Pending Full Test Of Fp Turbo. Results To Follow.
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09-01-2007, 09:24 AM
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this is the thread that I posted on NASIOC after I found out that FP was using TW turbos
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1272491
the FP reply, in it's entirety is on there
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1272491
the FP reply, in it's entirety is on there
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Is this you?
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Turns out he is Brian Smothers the former owner of Momentum Turbo. Just to set the record straight, Momentum was actually not allowed back on NASIOC after repeated attempts to get them to stop fighting with members. The shop itself it also long gone.
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