Forced Performance is Selling Taiwanese turbos
#31
I finally found the mark I've been talking about! This mark identifies a turbo as a taiwan turbo.
http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...ge.php?pID=437
in the upper left, on the housing, behind/ left of the number sequence "49376", there is a logo-it's a "chsh" mark. THAT marks a turbo as a taiwan unit!
If anyone has a FP turbo, or any other "suspect" turbo, look for that mark. Also, note the dark color of the housing-the bearing housing (center housing)is the same color. OEM mitsubishi stuff is a lighter gray due to metal composition.
http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...ge.php?pID=437
in the upper left, on the housing, behind/ left of the number sequence "49376", there is a logo-it's a "chsh" mark. THAT marks a turbo as a taiwan unit!
If anyone has a FP turbo, or any other "suspect" turbo, look for that mark. Also, note the dark color of the housing-the bearing housing (center housing)is the same color. OEM mitsubishi stuff is a lighter gray due to metal composition.
#32
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i am glad i only got a vf-34.
#33
Here's another one
http://www.theturbotrader.com/index.php?cPath=60
Now, the problem here is that the turbo trader says
"This is a factory TD05H-16G with a 7cm2 WRX turbine housing. That has had the stock 90 degree elbow machined off so that it fits perfectly into the stock location. "
Not so much, turbo trader. Yes, the turbo is from a factory, but it's not the mitsubishi factory. If you look at the picture above where it says "turbo upgrades" on the page referenced above, that is a taiwan turbo. 100% Taiwan. I have an associate in town here who will remain nameless that ordered this "factory 16g" and sent it back because it's not a mitsubishi.
I will email the turbo trader to confirm all of this.
EDIT: it would be nice to know where the turbo trader gets his turbos, because that "super 16g" has the most generic looking non-OEM compressor housing ever......
http://www.theturbotrader.com/index.php?cPath=60
Now, the problem here is that the turbo trader says
"This is a factory TD05H-16G with a 7cm2 WRX turbine housing. That has had the stock 90 degree elbow machined off so that it fits perfectly into the stock location. "
Not so much, turbo trader. Yes, the turbo is from a factory, but it's not the mitsubishi factory. If you look at the picture above where it says "turbo upgrades" on the page referenced above, that is a taiwan turbo. 100% Taiwan. I have an associate in town here who will remain nameless that ordered this "factory 16g" and sent it back because it's not a mitsubishi.
I will email the turbo trader to confirm all of this.
EDIT: it would be nice to know where the turbo trader gets his turbos, because that "super 16g" has the most generic looking non-OEM compressor housing ever......
#34
Sent to the turbo trader:
"Hello
I am enquiring about your subaru 16g turbo. It seems to me that your turbo looks suspiciously like the taiwan turbos formerly sold by turbochargers.com and MOMENTUM. Where is your turbo made, and where did you get it from?
Please let me know, as I am very interested.
Brian"
"Hello
I am enquiring about your subaru 16g turbo. It seems to me that your turbo looks suspiciously like the taiwan turbos formerly sold by turbochargers.com and MOMENTUM. Where is your turbo made, and where did you get it from?
Please let me know, as I am very interested.
Brian"
#35
Damn, these things are everywhere!
http://www.turbo-kits.com/wrx_turbo_kits.html
The top one is not a mitsubishi, unless they are selling something that looks different from the picture. Notice, they say that the brand is mitsubishi. We'll see.
"Hello
I am enquiring about your subaru 16g turbo. It seems to me that your turbo looks suspiciously like the taiwan turbos formerly sold by turbochargers.com and MOMENTUM. Where is your turbo made, and where did you get it from?
Please let me know, as I am very interested.
Brian"
http://www.turbo-kits.com/wrx_turbo_kits.html
The top one is not a mitsubishi, unless they are selling something that looks different from the picture. Notice, they say that the brand is mitsubishi. We'll see.
"Hello
I am enquiring about your subaru 16g turbo. It seems to me that your turbo looks suspiciously like the taiwan turbos formerly sold by turbochargers.com and MOMENTUM. Where is your turbo made, and where did you get it from?
Please let me know, as I am very interested.
Brian"
#37
http://blouchturbo.com/turbos/WRX_TD..._Big_16G-7CM2/
look at the back of the turbine housing, the shot where you can see the turbine wheel? Look at the letters.
Check out the green turbo
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...e=NTWRXFPGREEN
click and enlarge the picture that is the same angle....see the letters?
Look at this-same turbo, but the guy claims he makes them in Japan. Sound like familiar marketing strategy? Taiwan turbo "but we make it in japan."
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUBARU-EJ20-EJ...ayphotohosting
#38
this is interesting
"It is not a Taiwan made turbo... it uses the Mitsubishi compressor
housing
and the IHI exhaust housing... Not familiar with the other turbos
available
for the car, but ours is the "real deal"... let me know if you have any
further questions or would like to order. Thanks!
Please reply with a copy of the original message. Failure to do so may
result in your question not being answered.
Grant
Turbo Kits.com - Boost Your Horsepower
http://www.turbo-kits.com
860.676.2929
grant@turbo-kits.com"
I guess that is possible if they machine the compressor housing to fit. I asked for more pictures.
"It is not a Taiwan made turbo... it uses the Mitsubishi compressor
housing
and the IHI exhaust housing... Not familiar with the other turbos
available
for the car, but ours is the "real deal"... let me know if you have any
further questions or would like to order. Thanks!
Please reply with a copy of the original message. Failure to do so may
result in your question not being answered.
Grant
Turbo Kits.com - Boost Your Horsepower
http://www.turbo-kits.com
860.676.2929
grant@turbo-kits.com"
I guess that is possible if they machine the compressor housing to fit. I asked for more pictures.
#39
and turbo trader responded. Keep in mind, this is the guy who sent the turbo to denver and that same turbo was rejected because it was a fake mitsubishi.
"These were ordered directly from Mitsubishi. I do not have any more
instock. I need to take them off the web site.
Thanks
Nick M"
I have asked for more pictures, because I know that this guy has either been lied to or is lying to me.
"These were ordered directly from Mitsubishi. I do not have any more
instock. I need to take them off the web site.
Thanks
Nick M"
I have asked for more pictures, because I know that this guy has either been lied to or is lying to me.
#42
it's more of the "forced performance saved my baby from a fire. Don't talk bad about them!" No matter that FP went from using mitsubishi stuff to using taiwan stuff and didn't bother to tell anyone. And then they bash another taiwan turbo like it's below them to use such junk.....
#44
EDIT: I bet it was assembled in the USA by two medal of honor winners, because that's who forced performance employs, because they are a true american company full of heroes!
Last edited by Taiwan Turbo; 09-05-2007 at 03:26 PM.
#45
BTW, same thread in teh EVOLUTIONM forums? Banned. Thread deleted. Total "Forced performance is so good, they could make turbos out of tumors and they would still be perfect. HOW DARE YOU!"