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hey ed, this is mike with the blue 06 you tuned yesterday. haha power is crazy man appreciate the tune. And the MBC helped a lot, response wise. Thanx again. EQ FTW!
cant make the BBQ tommorow.will be at UCSF medical all day.looks like t he wife has to have surgery monday and my shoulder gets hacked to **** tuesday.
anyone you recomend to drive my car for the tune?after tuesday i wont be able to drive a stick for at least a month
anyone you recomend to drive my car for the tune?after tuesday i wont be able to drive a stick for at least a month
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I do recommend using an MBC even with the stock turbo. It will greatly improve response and overall drive-ability. We carry the Hallman Pro RX MBC's for $100 and we can install them just prior to the tune.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
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Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks
-- Ed
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The MBC also provides more stable and consistent boost levels with very little to no spiking. When tuning a solenoid based system, there's always a trade off between boost response in the lower gears and boost stability in the higher gears and more load. If you tune to completely eliminate spiking and wavering under higher loads, you will be giving up significant response in the lower gears. The MBC gives you the best of both worlds.
The only major drawback of the MBC is that it leaves the customer the power to potentially turn up the boost and cause damage. I've found this not to be an issue as long as the customer is fully educated and understands that if he messes with the MBC, he will likely cause problems. Most people don't want to blow their engines, so they take this advice seriously and don't mess with the MBC after the tune.
I hope that answers your question.
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The 3-port solenoid is a good upgrade over stock in terms of response, but a good MBC will still give you significantly better response than the 3-port. This is especially true in the lower gears where its harder to get the turbo spooled up.
The MBC also provides more stable and consistent boost levels with very little to no spiking. When tuning a solenoid based system, there's always a trade off between boost response in the lower gears and boost stability in the higher gears and more load. If you tune to completely eliminate spiking and wavering under higher loads, you will be giving up significant response in the lower gears. The MBC gives you the best of both worlds.
The only major drawback of the MBC is that it leaves the customer the power to potentially turn up the boost and cause damage. I've found this not to be an issue as long as the customer is fully educated and understands that if he messes with the MBC, he will likely cause problems. Most people don't want to blow their engines, so they take this advice seriously and don't mess with the MBC after the tune.
I hope that answers your question.
Thanks
-- Ed
The MBC also provides more stable and consistent boost levels with very little to no spiking. When tuning a solenoid based system, there's always a trade off between boost response in the lower gears and boost stability in the higher gears and more load. If you tune to completely eliminate spiking and wavering under higher loads, you will be giving up significant response in the lower gears. The MBC gives you the best of both worlds.
The only major drawback of the MBC is that it leaves the customer the power to potentially turn up the boost and cause damage. I've found this not to be an issue as long as the customer is fully educated and understands that if he messes with the MBC, he will likely cause problems. Most people don't want to blow their engines, so they take this advice seriously and don't mess with the MBC after the tune.
I hope that answers your question.
Thanks
-- Ed
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Yeah, the ability to turn up boost is the thing what scares me. I would know not to even look at it wrong, but I cannot say the same thing for other people...I am just paranoid that someone else will mess with it (valets, people at the meets or track days or auto-x, etc). So, I presume getting an electronic boost controller would give me the same benefits only with security that people would not be able to mess with my boost levels? And are there downsides to that option (outside of cost and lengthier install)?
Finally, there is still a fuel cut failsafe that is set in the ECU, so if someone does manage to turn up your boost significantly when you're not looking, the ECU will hit fuel cut to protect the engine. This will also signal that something is not right to the driver.
EBC's are still solenoid based systems and generally will not outperform the stock ECU with a 3-port solenoid and a good tune. They also tend to be very inconsistent and finicky when you encounter varying weather and elevation conditions.
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