Virginia Tech... shooter's motivation?
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
I think it does. Especially the psych eval. Too nuts, no gun. Likely to go nuts, no gun.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
A gun is a tool.
More people are killed each year from alcohol, cars than from guns.
Why not ban cars?
More people are killed each year from alcohol, cars than from guns.
Why not ban cars?
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
The flaw here is the belief that only imbalanced peopel are criminals. Many violent criems are comitted by people with no history of or indication of propensity for violence. More importantly, what possible criteria can be set to determine who will not get permission to carry a weapon? If I'v enever undergone required psychiatric evaluation, and never comitted a crime, does that mean I'm eligible? What grounds can you have for denying my right to own a weapon if I've never broken the law?
It would make it so there are two ways to get yourself dissallowed from gunu ownership: 1) you are a criminal already, and 2) you are not stable enough to trust with a gun. This won't make it so EVERYONE who has a gun won't kill someone, but it will help.
What grounds can you have for denying anyone the right to drive, or to fly a plane, or to go scuba diving if they've never broken the law? Oh that's right...if someone sucks and/or doesn't have training, they can't do those things legally...THOSE are the grounds I have to deny you ownership of a weapon if you've never broken the law...
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The shooter isn't always the registered owner of the gun. Making it harder for a "qualified" person to own a gun doesn't mean that its harder for a someone to steal it.
Besides, the issue here is about one person's psychological "flaws" and their willingness to cause harm. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The method in which this tragedy was carried out should not be the focus. The reason it was carried out should be.
Besides, the issue here is about one person's psychological "flaws" and their willingness to cause harm. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The method in which this tragedy was carried out should not be the focus. The reason it was carried out should be.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
I think it does. Especially the psych eval. Too nuts, no gun. Likely to go nuts, no gun.
It's purely speculation that the guy had illegal guns.
It's purely speculation that the guy had illegal guns.
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Cars don;'t kill people. Except SUVs, which also kill penguins and kittens.
SUVs save lives too... (for the people inside).
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Originally Posted by jvick125
Stand in front of my legacy, and let me hit you at 60mph, and we'll see if you survive.
SUVs save lives too... (for the people inside).
SUVs save lives too... (for the people inside).
Additionally, SUVs are far less safer than cars in single vehicle accidents. Not to mention what happens to someone who isn't driving 3000 extra pounds of vehicle around when you hit them with one.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
It would make it so there are two ways to get yourself dissallowed from gunu ownership: 1) you are a criminal already, and 2) you are not stable enough to trust with a gun. This won't make it so EVERYONE who has a gun won't kill someone, but it will help.
What grounds can you have for denying anyone the right to drive, or to fly a plane, or to go scuba diving if they've never broken the law? Oh that's right...if someone sucks and/or doesn't have training, they can't do those things legally...THOSE are the grounds I have to deny you ownership of a weapon if you've never broken the law...
What grounds can you have for denying anyone the right to drive, or to fly a plane, or to go scuba diving if they've never broken the law? Oh that's right...if someone sucks and/or doesn't have training, they can't do those things legally...THOSE are the grounds I have to deny you ownership of a weapon if you've never broken the law...
Point is, your suggestion of psychological screening and longer waiting periods would not save a single, solitary life and would inconveneince hundreds of thousands of perfectly normal, sane, law-abiding people.
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So the guy is South Korean.... I wonder what made him go nuts like that.
I guess he's breaking stereotypes... how many white serial killers ever made it to >30 victims?
I guess he's breaking stereotypes... how many white serial killers ever made it to >30 victims?
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Firearms a privilege!?!?!
Last time I read the Bill of Rights, firearm ownership is a right.
WTF is wrong with you anti gun types; as soon as an incident like this happens, y'all blame guns.
Yet, when an old man, a crazed Muslim, ar a drunk frat boi kills people with a car, the person is blamed?
Yes, a gun is a tool designed to kill people.
And most guns are capable tools.
However, it's the person that decides the target.
The only object that deserves blame is the person.
Last time I read the Bill of Rights, firearm ownership is a right.
WTF is wrong with you anti gun types; as soon as an incident like this happens, y'all blame guns.
Yet, when an old man, a crazed Muslim, ar a drunk frat boi kills people with a car, the person is blamed?
Yes, a gun is a tool designed to kill people.
And most guns are capable tools.
However, it's the person that decides the target.
The only object that deserves blame is the person.
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Originally Posted by George Washington
A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite
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Originally Posted by nKoan
We should just get to the root of the problem and ban Koreans.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Firearms a privilege!?!?!
Last time I read the Bill of Rights, firearm ownership is a right.
Last time I read the Bill of Rights, firearm ownership is a right.