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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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I'm glad to see that many of us would have placed that "9/11 fan" with his virgins.
Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
Rights should be a privilege, not a right
I guess Jefferson and the other founding fathers got it wrong then:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights"

I guess they were just ****ing around when they spoke of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

If I, like most Americans, heard someone saying that we got what we deserved on 9/11, I would be obviously offended. However, calling an entire group of people "animals" based on the actions of a few is ignorant. If Muslims are "animals" because of the horrible actions of some of their people, then couldn't one call honorable members of the US military "animals" due to the horrible actions of a few dishonorable soldiers? Throwing such a broad label over a group of people doesn't accomplish anything and only breeds more hatred.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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I hate hatred.... But not as much as radical Islamists. I want to pickle them in pork broth and let my dog lick it off of them, then I'd beat them with my flip flop, smack 'em around with my left hand; all during prayer time.
Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Magish
I guess Jefferson and the other founding fathers got it wrong then:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights"

I guess they were just ****ing around when they spoke of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

If I, like most Americans, heard someone saying that we got what we deserved on 9/11, I would be obviously offended. However, calling an entire group of people "animals" based on the actions of a few is ignorant. If Muslims are "animals" because of the horrible actions of some of their people, then couldn't one call honorable members of the US military "animals" due to the horrible actions of a few dishonorable soldiers? Throwing such a broad label over a group of people doesn't accomplish anything and only breeds more hatred.
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Hey, don't give me the third degree, I didn't call anybody a freakin animal. But I do think that anyone who supports the death of 2000 plus innocents doesn't deserve to have any rights. That's just sociopathic and inexcusable.

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
...just saying we're living in much scarier times our founding fathers may not have thought completely through. Oh yeah, scarier times should further guarantee gun rights. )
Sure, because our founding fathers penned the Declaration of Independence and Constitution in a totally benign environment. No doubt that historical accounts of a brutal British occupation, featuring assaults on American life and liberty are totally overblown and it was one big picnic back then.

Those of you that seem to favor being scared and reaching for more guns in such 'scary times' as these, while eschewing the basic human rights of those that frighten you are doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the founding fathers wanted for our nation. What's the point of the last 230 years if we abandon the foundations (rights to life, liberty, habeus corpus, bans on cruel/unusual punishment, etc) of this country every time we perceive a threat that doesn't fit a previous experience, even if it's Islamic terrorists crashing planes into buildings? This is the very definition of selling out your patriotism, and seems to be the true legacy of the Bush years.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "
-Ben Franklin, 1755
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
Hey, don't give me the third degree, I didn't call anybody a freakin animal. But I do think that anyone who supports the death of 2000 plus innocents doesn't deserve to have any rights. That's just sociopathic and inexcusable.
Sorry about that, I probably should have put another quote in there .


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Sure, because our founding fathers penned the Declaration of Independence and Constitution in a totally benign environment. No doubt that historical accounts of a brutal British occupation, featuring assaults on American life and liberty are totally overblown and it was one big picnic back then.

Those of you that seem to favor being scared and reaching for more guns in such 'scary times' as these, while eschewing the basic human rights of those that frighten you are doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the founding fathers wanted for our nation. What's the point of the last 230 years if we abandon the foundations (rights to life, liberty, habeus corpus, bans on cruel/unusual punishment, etc) of this country every time we perceive a threat that doesn't fit a previous experience, even if it's Islamic terrorists crashing planes into buildings? This is the very definition of selling out your patriotism, and seems to be the true legacy of the Bush years.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "
-Ben Franklin, 1755
Bingo.
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatteroo
WTF??!
Yeah Islam is suuuuuure a religion of peace alright :rollseyes:
If they were truely peaceful, then why attack jews, americans, and pretty much anyone else that doesn't believe in Mohammed. Everyone is an infidel in their eyes unless you are muslim. Usually I'm pretty tolerant of most crap...but not them.
Wow... you sound almost as close minded and extremist as the terrorists with your comment.
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by code3scooby
Wow... you sound almost as close minded and extremist as the terrorists with your comment.
So you are saying that Muslims are not attacking Jews, et al?
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by shagginwagon
Sure, because our founding fathers penned the Declaration of Independence and Constitution in a totally benign environment. No doubt that historical accounts of a brutal British occupation, featuring assaults on American life and liberty are totally overblown and it was one big picnic back then.

Those of you that seem to favor being scared and reaching for more guns in such 'scary times' as these, while eschewing the basic human rights of those that frighten you are doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the founding fathers wanted for our nation. What's the point of the last 230 years if we abandon the foundations (rights to life, liberty, habeus corpus, bans on cruel/unusual punishment, etc) of this country every time we perceive a threat that doesn't fit a previous experience, even if it's Islamic terrorists crashing planes into buildings? This is the very definition of selling out your patriotism, and seems to be the true legacy of the Bush years.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "
-Ben Franklin, 1755
Good post. Just that I'm not scared and still want my guns.
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
Good post. Just that I'm not scared and still want my guns.
Ditto.

And this country no longer belongs to our founding fathers. We can make changes as we see fit.
Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
Ditto.

And this country no longer belongs to our founding fathers. We can make changes as we see fit.
I do not agree; Socialism is not on the menu.

ANd here's another loving example of an Honor Killing brought to by the Religeon of Peace:

Police Say Georgia Man Killed Own Daughter to Protect Family Honor

A Georgia man appeared in court Monday on charges he killed his own daughter for disgracing his family.


Police said Rashid was so angered that his daughter planned to divorce her husband that he killed her after a heated argument at the family's home, FOX News affiliate MyFoxAtlanta reported.
Burn in Hell, you piece of trash.
Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
So you are saying that Muslims are not attacking Jews, et al?
Are you saying that Jews are not attacking Muslims as well?
Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Magish
Are you saying that Jews are not attacking Muslims as well?
If Jews ceased to exist, Muslims would still be killing.
The opposite can not be said.
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