If the west leaves "the land of Islam," will Islam leave the West?
08-04-2005, 10:52 AM
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If the west leaves "the land of Islam," will Islam leave the West?
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Per the #2 Al-Qaida deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri, "As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam.”
So if "we" leave the middle-east, will they tear down their mosques in Europe and America (aka Jususland), and pack their bags and go home?
Heck, sounds like a good deal to me!
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Per the #2 Al-Qaida deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri, "As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam.”
So if "we" leave the middle-east, will they tear down their mosques in Europe and America (aka Jususland), and pack their bags and go home?
Heck, sounds like a good deal to me!
http://www.stuffz.net/gallery/Funny-things/new_map
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Although I see the argument I’d have to agree with VIBE. Think about this... Imagine how screwed we'd be if we did leave and they bluffed by attacking us again. Also consider the fact you cannot control everyones actions. If there was a governing body on murder that suddenly denouced the act it wouldn't matter. There would still be murder....
There's no way for this to work as long as the 1st amendment is in place. It would be a one-way street every single time. What makes me mad is that millions of spineless Americans would rather take their chances and follow suit. As if trusting a terrorist is the right answer.
There's no way for this to work as long as the 1st amendment is in place. It would be a one-way street every single time. What makes me mad is that millions of spineless Americans would rather take their chances and follow suit. As if trusting a terrorist is the right answer.
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i say build self replicating nano bots that attack middle eastern based dna strands, dissasembeling them into their lowest forms of material.
we then crop dust the entire planet and hope this mesh of nanobots doesnt take over the world
MUUHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA
we then crop dust the entire planet and hope this mesh of nanobots doesnt take over the world
MUUHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA
08-04-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
i say build self replicating nano bots that attack middle eastern based dna strands, dissasembeling them into their lowest forms of material.
we then crop dust the entire planet and hope this mesh of nanobots doesnt take over the world
MUUHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA
we then crop dust the entire planet and hope this mesh of nanobots doesnt take over the world
MUUHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA
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08-04-2005, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Oaf
Nomination....denied!
Why don't you like it?
Seems like a fair question to ask.
Why don't you like it?
Seems like a fair question to ask.
The U.S. and other western civilizations have been occupying the middle-east for thousands of years, against the wishes of the indiginous peoples.
There is no legitimate comparison.
08-04-2005, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
There are many muslims in western society who are law-abiding citizens here for legitimate purposes.
The U.S. and other western civilizations have been occupying the middle-east for thousands of years, against the wishes of the indiginous peoples.
There is no legitimate comparison.
The U.S. and other western civilizations have been occupying the middle-east for thousands of years, against the wishes of the indiginous peoples.
There is no legitimate comparison.
Many (I'd guess the majority) of the Islamic people that come hear have no desire to assimilate into our society. If they don't want to "do as the Romans do" they should leave in my estimation. I think that applies to any group, sect, cult, or culture of peoples that come here.
So are you saying that they should occupy and influence us here, but we should stop our western influence overseas? Isn't that a double-standard?
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
There are many muslims in western society who are law-abiding citizens here for legitimate purposes.
The U.S. and other western civilizations have been occupying the middle-east for thousands of years, against the wishes of the indiginous peoples.
There is no legitimate comparison.
The U.S. and other western civilizations have been occupying the middle-east for thousands of years, against the wishes of the indiginous peoples.
There is no legitimate comparison.
That's one way of looking at history.
Which countries have been occupied for thousands of years?
Turkey?
Iraq?
Iran?
Somalia?
Egypt?
The Stans?
What you should be looking at is how many Arab/Islamic countries are being occupied by fellow Muslims.
Against their wills.
08-05-2005, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
What do you mean by legitimate purposes?
Originally Posted by hdumb
Many (I'd guess the majority) of the Islamic people that come hear have no desire to assimilate into our society. If they don't want to "do as the Romans do" they should leave in my estimation. I think that applies to any group, sect, cult, or culture of peoples that come here.
Originally Posted by hdumb
So are you saying that they should occupy and influence us here, but we should stop our western influence overseas? Isn't that a double-standard?
08-05-2005, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Oaf
:rotfl:
What you should be looking at is how many Arab/Islamic countries are being occupied by fellow Muslims.
Against their wills.
What you should be looking at is how many Arab/Islamic countries are being occupied by fellow Muslims.
Against their wills.
As far as thousands of years of occupation....I don't mean continuous occupation....think "cruisades."
08-05-2005, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
What influence do they have here? Please give an example of significant influence that the muslim culture has had on our society.
The reason I'm zeroing in on this particular group is because they want "our" influence to stop in "their" homeland. I think it's a double-standard.
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08-05-2005, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
That doesn't seem to be the issue, does it?
occupation....think "cruisades."
occupation....think "cruisades."
I love how people leave out that little detail.
08-05-2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Isn't Mr. T a muslim?
I nominate this for stupidest thread of the year.
I nominate this for stupidest thread of the year.
You haven't been here very long, have you? :haha:
Back on topic --
When Al Zawabuttcrack, the leader of a terrorist network, goes on public record with this BS, he's not speaking for all muslims. So what do mosques in the US (a country with a freedom of religon) have to do with terrorists overseas? Sure, a small percentage are corrupt and may have terror ties, but when you generalize all of them, you are labeling every muslim as a terrorist. When there are protests by peaceful muslims who are trying to separate themselves from extremism, why work against them by refusing to acknowledge the positive, and only focusing on the bad media? They may not be that vocal, but since many are, you have to believe there are many more who think like them, and you have to at least give people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you need a mosque built in your backyard and hundreds of full-garbed muslims frolicking in your streets to bring you a revelation
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