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But the problem is that this so called "few" is a small (or very small) percentage of this 1.2 billion Muslims. That's still a very significant problem number wise. And you're half right, you really shouldn't judge all the actions by this smaller percentage. Problem is that recent terror-plotting doctors have widened the gap beyond what the lowest of low radicals that can't even read or right were capable of doing.
You can't blame people for being afraid and even pointing fingers at all Muslims. It's not rational behavior to put statistics (the probability of the Muslim before being a terrorist) before your safety in this guerilla struggle. Just look at how we treat HIV/AIDS... the chances of getting HIV are virtually non-existent if your partner does not have sex with the criminal/drug populous and is not homosexual. But you still wrap it up, don't you?
You can't blame people for being afraid and even pointing fingers at all Muslims. It's not rational behavior to put statistics (the probability of the Muslim before being a terrorist) before your safety in this guerilla struggle. Just look at how we treat HIV/AIDS... the chances of getting HIV are virtually non-existent if your partner does not have sex with the criminal/drug populous and is not homosexual. But you still wrap it up, don't you?
Islam is the only word. At least according to their book. So how can others created equal? F*** them. If I were alive during WWII I certainly wouldn't ave had any compassion for the **** party either. They lived by a book as well http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/. But they weren't all bad....
disease control and racial and religious profiling aren't even the same thing, thats like comparing apples to oranges. And ipozestu, thats alright that you have your opinion thats the great thing about America we're free to discuss these things WITHOUT persicution. And ****'s and the uneducated muslim insergents are incomparable, cause last time I checked there still arent any Christian death camps. War is war and there will always be colateral damage thats a part of the game. But the thing that gets me is you guys cant see past one sided propaganda, not even question it. Dont think for a second that bush didn't have a personal agenda by going over to the middle east, (revenge for daddy, control of most of the worlds oil, making more money for his personal businesses) so dont act as if the agenda of our government is totally for the cause. Unless that cause is fat wallets. Try and put yourself in someone elses shoes and see through thier eyes, its time for a perspective change.
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Oh and salty I understand your point of people being afraid and acting out of fear, but it also proves a point that for the same reasons peacful muslims don't have the abilty to stand up against these extremists for fear of death.
Dont think for a second that bush didn't have a personal agenda by going over to the middle east, (revenge for daddy, control of most of the worlds oil, making more money for his personal businesses) so dont act as if the agenda of our government is totally for the cause. Unless that cause is fat wallets. Try and put yourself in someone elses shoes and see through thier eyes, its time for a perspective change.
These chicken **** excuses for the rapists and murders is exactly why we are losing this war.
Propaganda?!?!? Those bastards have been slaying people for hundreds of years. What propaganda? Frankly there isn't enough propaganda. Once again back to WWII, each side painted their enemy in text, cartoons, pictures to be equal to that of satan. The rag heads have one thing right they use propaganda very effectively. We are much to sensative for that.. BULL****!!!!
I CALL BULL**** HERE TOO!!!! There was a time when there were only 13 colonies and those who lived in those colonies were ruled by the King. They also feared being killed; many were. That was before the revolution. Many died during the revolution. After it was over who won that revolution???? The same people who once feared for their lives.
These chicken **** excuses for the rapists and murders is exactly why we are losing this war.
I CALL BULL**** HERE TOO!!!! There was a time when there were only 13 colonies and those who lived in those colonies were ruled by the King. They also feared being killed; many were. That was before the revolution. Many died during the revolution. After it was over who won that revolution???? The same people who once feared for their lives.
These chicken **** excuses for the rapists and murders is exactly why we are losing this war.
Finger pointing at an ENTIRE religion is the same thing the ***** did during WWII, so how does that not make hating all muslims not the same thing? You seriously need to listen to yourself, Do you not know anyone who is muslim, cause that might change your view. Hell you might already and have no idea, but would that change your opinion.....I would hope so.
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Haaaa hAAAAA. My wife's mom is muslim, her dad was too. Then he died and I buried him. That sucked BTW. FWIW you do not see pro-american/anti muslim propaganda. [you]But, but, but, I see it all the time[you]... Wrong.... The last little bit of anti-muslim propaganda I saw...

I guess you must have forgot what happened when this little beauty pop up....
than how can you say its all of islams fault just curious, and its not "me right you wrong" thats why they are called OPINIONS. And no I didn't forget. I will respect your opinion but not your view point. on a side note what does FWIW mean sorry to sidetrack.
For what it's worth. FWIW=mucheasier on the fingers.
Because, if all of Islam is so much larger than the few radicals and if there is such a deep root and respect for Islam in the Muslim world, then technically the radicals go against the grain and virtually insult the majority. It should be fairly easy for the majority to overthrow the minority. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if it does...
Another modern day propagandist, Theo van gogh, try a google of that name and find out what happens when you present anti-Islam propaganda. My point here, you don't see it because we are affraid of offending them. We don't want to make them any more angry than they are.
What about the streets of Paris that burned for weeks and weeks. They weren't radical or were they?
Because, if all of Islam is so much larger than the few radicals and if there is such a deep root and respect for Islam in the Muslim world, then technically the radicals go against the grain and virtually insult the majority. It should be fairly easy for the majority to overthrow the minority. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if it does...
Another modern day propagandist, Theo van gogh, try a google of that name and find out what happens when you present anti-Islam propaganda. My point here, you don't see it because we are affraid of offending them. We don't want to make them any more angry than they are.
What about the streets of Paris that burned for weeks and weeks. They weren't radical or were they?
For what it's worth. FWIW=mucheasier on the fingers.
Because, if all of Islam is so much larger than the few radicals and if there is such a deep root and respect for Islam in the Muslim world, then technically the radicals go against the grain and virtually insult the majority. It should be fairly easy for the majority to overthrow the minority. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if it does... Another modern day propagandist, Theo van gogh, try a google of that name and find out what happens when you present anti-Islam propaganda. My point here, you don't see it because we are affraid of offending them. We don't want to make them any more angry than they are.
What about the streets of Paris that burned for weeks and weeks. They weren't radical or were they?
Because, if all of Islam is so much larger than the few radicals and if there is such a deep root and respect for Islam in the Muslim world, then technically the radicals go against the grain and virtually insult the majority. It should be fairly easy for the majority to overthrow the minority. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if it does... Another modern day propagandist, Theo van gogh, try a google of that name and find out what happens when you present anti-Islam propaganda. My point here, you don't see it because we are affraid of offending them. We don't want to make them any more angry than they are.
What about the streets of Paris that burned for weeks and weeks. They weren't radical or were they?
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And disease control is not the point. It's your fear that a person could have HIV/AIDS just like a Muslim may or may not have ulterior motives or a bomb in a backpack. Odds are that person does not have the disease and the Muslim is not a threat. That's the point. It is what it is man. Whether or not you chose to fear these things is entirely on you. You shouldn’t attack people that fear Islam these days. Their reasons aren't exactly groundless.
EDIT: And yes, I have a couple Muslim friends. That means absolutely nothing.
Last edited by Salty; Jul 17, 2007 at 11:14 PM.
Im going to have to agree to disagree with some of the arguments but I will not deny the relavant points you bring up. I'll apologize if I gave the impression that I was attacking anyone, that was not my intention, merely to share my opinion. I will not deny that people have a right to be afraid, but its what you do with that fear that makes a differance.
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listen if 1.2 billion muslims were all extremists like you guys are saying **** would be alot worse, thats all im trying to get across is that you cant judge all by the actions of few otherwise your no better than them. And what you are refering to is when the profit mohammed is talking about the crusaders invading the holy land and the muslims defending meccah. They do speak about killing but only as a last resort and for self defense. And isn't that kind of like to golden rule, do unto others as you would have done unto you.
But just like **** Germany, all it takes is a few corrupt ****s to use/abuse their positions of power to cause a lot of trouble for the rest of the world.
The "few" bad Muslims simply kill those "good" Muslims that oppose them.
And don't even bring up the crusades & say that the muslims were just defending themselves. It's a load of liberal bull****.
Explain these Muslim lead killings and show how they were "defending" themselves:
1. Thailand: Violence continues unabated in the Muslim south
2. Schoolgirls in the gunsights of the Taliban
3. Muslims Kill Elderly Buddist Couple.
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I don't take anything you say as a personal attack.
While you're entitled to your opinion, you must see that it's wrong.
While you're entitled to your opinion, you must see that it's wrong.
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Explain please.
Beyond the occasional slip of the tongue or people treading into ignorant territory with their words against Islam, give examples of how non-Muslims are using their fear.
And no, TV series 24 producers using Islamic terrorists that the CAIR was so upset about does not count. I bet you can only dig-up a few isolated incidents of vandalism and harassment. There may be a death hate crime against a Muslim but I'm not sure. I think I remember reading about one.
My point is the ‘using our fears’ argument is weak. The South did far more to blacks for the non-threatening color of their skin than America has ever gotten close to doing to potentially radical Islam practitioners.


