sigma pi

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you are?


typical nor cal stuff

sigma pi

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gas + insurance + maintinance + cost of the car = the cost of driving your car


the bus is just the fare


so tax the hypothetical civic

sigma pi

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quit trying to derail this topic!!!!!

Mr x will give you points !!

Irrational X

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no i'm not saying we need to throw money at the gap, can you read? im saying that Californians take a net-loss on our fed taxes, which is awesome, since we pay-in more than anyone else.

ill put this example forward:

one of the biggest reasons for the collapse of the USSR was a strong (or seemingly so) central government in Moscow that attempted to control every aspect of the countries citizenry and economy. they went bankrupt.

Sound familiar?

A detached an insular community of elitists exercising oligarchical power over the far reaches of an empire? redistribution of wealth? Im getting a clue. Its raging.

states are better equipped to manage themselves than the Fed is.

Tax Foundation
The California Institute for Federal Policy Research
WSJ

i didnt say protectionism is the answer, once again, please take the time to read and understand what i wrote.

that is quite possible the worst metaphor i have ever seen. I prefer the metaphor of the comatose patient whose family and friends cant bear to let them die. instead of moving on with their lives they are stuck in the past, fighting (and probably praying) for something that has already been determined.

hegemonic stability theory tells us that we cannot, and will not, remain the top dog forever. the sooner we recognize this the sooner we can deal with the serious and debilitating issues we have socially and economically.


the reason i am not answering your questions after you post them is because there is a perfectly good description in my statements themselves. I'm not the one making convoluted metaphors that are ultimately irrelevant and unrelated to the discussion at hand. My posts do not require a rocket scientist and a crackerjack decoder ring to decipher.

you clearly went to a public school, one that was federally funded with a mandated curriculum.

Your asking a dude on the internet how he is going to implement his grand scheme for an American economic overhaul?

well first i'm going to beat it to some midget ****, then im going to get elected high emperor of Canada, invade the US, and institute my economic policies.

besides, as long as people with your frame of mind are voting there's no chance for the rest of us to be heard.

Irrational X

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how bout state and local bonds, state and fed taxes that i already pay so that no one rides the bus.

im all for great public transit, but it should be the burden of the people CAUSING the problem (solo drivers, hummer owners) that pay to improve our transit system not my grandmother who sits in a retirement home and hasn't driven in 30 years.

sigma pi

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she should leave a good legacy with good transportation

LxJLthr

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Well, I definitely appreciate your unfounded assumptions and personal attacks. Even if some of my arguments and metaphors can use improvement, I see you deem it better not do say anything or insult me instead of educating or correcting the flaws of my logic, so I can improve in the future. If you think about it in that context, your frame of mind if really no more decremental than mine. Disregarding whatever was said, at least I am trying to understand people's points of view, make an independent opinion and my own judgment. I really appreciated your condescending tone throughout your reply, you will get a lot of people to listen and understand you that way. No one ever said the process was going to be without error. How many other people do you see posting here trying to figure anything out?

sigma pi

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not me!

Irrational X

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its a valid response based on your assertions. It is clear that you either chose not to, or are incapable of, reading posts, digesting their content, and articulating a relevant response.

i went to a public school, however, i also chose to educate myself.

Fragment; Consider revising.

maybe you should re-read your posts. they don't exactly seem like you are 'trying to understand' another persons point of view as much as you are trying to discredit it and thus convolute the issue even further.

have you considdered running for elected office?

sigma pi

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Originally Posted by LxJLthr
If you think about it in that context, your frame of mind if really no more decremental than mine.
Fragment; Consider revising.




no its not




its an improper word selection

Your frame of mind iS really no more decremental than mine.


the first part is a dependant clause so we can just lop that off

LxJLthr

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Hahaha thank you for the correction, it is supposed to be "is" not "if".

Irrational X

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funny how a single word can Popsicle an entire sentence. also, there is no such thing as a "dependant clause".

dependent? sure.

i was simply making a point.

sigma pi

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yes english sucks

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handou.../g_clause.html

Irrational X

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only for those who don't practice it.

LxJLthr

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Irrational X...Take this reply for what it is worth, but it seems you have already made up your mind about me...It does appears you are well educated (I applaud you for it and your efforts) in theory, ideology and statistics. I did the same thing back in college. However, reality versus theory/ideology are very different animals. Please go back and re-read my replies as well. I actually do discuss valid points related to the topics at hand (whether you choose to see them or not); however, I also try to bring up additional points that might need to be considered. It is called brainstorming; sometimes you get something right sometimes you do not. I personally can care less about theory and ideology that cannot be implemented or have a higher cost than actual benefit. The latter part is what I always focus on.

Furthermore, what is wrong with being a devil's advocate and encourage discussion? It is one way of debating; while potentially agreeing on the topic as a whole, you try to find various questions and discredit assumptions to bring forth as many potential arguments as possible. Once they are out one the open, you have opportunity to adsorb, digest and formulate an opinion. I am an introvert, where I try to get as much information possible out into the open (by whatever means necessary), think about it and later come up with my conclusions.

Unfortunately, the internet forums is also a very limited media for educated discussion as a lot of personality, feeling, intonation, timing and energy is taken out of the picture. I will admit that you were correct that on several of the posts I either read too much into the posts or jumped to a conclusion too soon. Oh well, I am human and that's what I also get for trying to reply at work during available moments.

Lastly, please read a good psychology or negotiating book. A valid response is never a personal attack or off-cuff judgment that puts a person on a defensive and close any potential for you to get your point across (irrelevant of how incapable you might think that person is). How do you know I am not doing anything of this on purpose to push the other side to see where their limit is because that's where you really know the person and their true colors?

I am sure this will fall upon deaf ears (ehe, blind eyes?) and will result in another personal, sarcastic, non-serious reply; but I thought I share this with you never the less.