Terrorists marching down the streets of SF??
01-07-2009, 11:47 AM
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Due process
That is how it is different, police attempt to arrest, then bring to trial and convict criminals, according to the rule of law.
Once you are labeled a terrorist, regardless of why, or who labeled you as such- apparently you cease to be a human being and can be tortured, and even exterminated without any chance to defend yourself.
And that seems to be all fine and dandy with you.
But you need to realize that you too can be labeled a terrorist, and if so, there is nothing that you can do about it.
That is how it is different, police attempt to arrest, then bring to trial and convict criminals, according to the rule of law.
Once you are labeled a terrorist, regardless of why, or who labeled you as such- apparently you cease to be a human being and can be tortured, and even exterminated without any chance to defend yourself.
And that seems to be all fine and dandy with you.
But you need to realize that you too can be labeled a terrorist, and if so, there is nothing that you can do about it.
A US criminal that committed a crime is not likely to shoot at the cops trying to arrest him.
An enemy at war is not likely to do anything except try and shoot you.
As we stormed Normandy should we have got on a loud speaker and introduced ourselves and asked them to come quietly???
Then, of course when they wouldn't have come quietly, we risk THOUSANDS of American lives to get in close quarters with the enemy and attempt to hand cuff them while being shot at?? I bet that would be real efficient.
Wonder why liberals aren't leading the military operations...
US troops, drop your guns and grab handcuffs!
01-07-2009, 11:50 AM
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I bet Hitler made slaughtering Jews legal... hmmm... good point though!
01-07-2009, 11:52 AM
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lol no, let them protest... it will just make those with opposing povs realize how strongly they believe what they do instead of being passive about it and allowing the marching loons to encourage others to believe the bs they themselves do.
01-07-2009, 12:13 PM
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Ethically, of course it makes sense to stop people from killing each other; but heres the problem: what do you do when the country allows it and in some cases provides the means to do so?
Invade the country? We saw what happened there, twice.
This is what the UN SHOULD be doing, but don't hold your breath on them doing more than writing a letter to Hamas asking them to stop.
There needs to be a World Police force/Army that is commanded by a World Government - again, don't hold your breath on that happening in our lifetimes.
What is happening in Gaza is the same **** thats been happening since the Age of Man began and will probably continue well past our lifetimes.
We also saw how the world views us when we tried to stop terrorism in the Middle East - we got the shaft and the bill and fronted the blood of our soldiers while they begged for food and water.
And with our continued occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan we simply do not have the man power to stop this Gaza conflict.
What we SHOULDN'T be doing is supporting Israel or Palestine; both countries are in the wrong and are completely arrogant and too stubborn to see reason.
You used a metaphor of the bully and the victim - well what do you do when both parties are trying to bully each other? Neither are in the right and both should be stopped, how do you do that without making two enemies?
01-07-2009, 12:31 PM
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Well, where are the ELECTED GOVERMENT MILITANTS (HAMAS) hidding???
Ahhha! If they hide in schools and choose to have their innocent civillians killed in cross fire.... then the Liberals across the world will plead for the inhumanity of those trying to take out the sick, twisted terrorists hidding in schools, hospitals, and other politically sensitive areas..
...right...
Ahhha! If they hide in schools and choose to have their innocent civillians killed in cross fire.... then the Liberals across the world will plead for the inhumanity of those trying to take out the sick, twisted terrorists hidding in schools, hospitals, and other politically sensitive areas..
...right...
What about the russians going into that school with the kids being held hostage, where all the kids died.
Next time I see some school or bank get held up in the US, I hope to see you wish a bomb hit that building.
Cause that's what's happening over there, and you guys are saying its completely OK. These Hamas *******s are hiding in hospitals and schools, and homes... yes, we know that...
But to bomb those places anyways is a little rediculous. The amount of people needed medical help is in the thousands now, and the of the roughly 500 dead, 30% are children.
So next time there is a hostiage situation in the US, were terrorist take over a building or something, you guys better be in here wanted us to bomb the building...
How you can just condone the bombings is unnerving.
01-07-2009, 12:35 PM
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We shouldn't be supporting anybody, anywhere. We should only work with countries for trade ties, not political ones.
Palestine is completely run by terrorists, and Israel is a ****ing self righteous brat, that does what it does cause of big brother watching over it's shoulder.
01-07-2009, 05:18 PM
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in this case, in a way, what's so different about racism and religion -,.-
we've learn to somewhat ignore racism after hundreds of years, how long will religion take.
we've learn to somewhat ignore racism after hundreds of years, how long will religion take.
01-08-2009, 02:03 AM
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Allow the palestinian to say something real quick. Where did you guys get the info of hamas hidding in schools hospitals etc... Do you guys believe all the BS you see on T.V???
its sad all the $h!t everyone talks and not one of you ever been there.
its sad all the $h!t everyone talks and not one of you ever been there.
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01-08-2009, 02:32 AM
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one last thing before i go for the night. I love how US stand by Israel after all the little shady things they do to us. For example the USS LIBERTY read your history and tell me why no one would say anything about it and why the US never took action???????
Last time i checked the Al Jazeera Station is located in the middle east. so i think the information you would get off of that channel would be a little more accurate the the news we get on are T.V. station in the U.S. and just because the news is said in arabic doesnt mean its wrong.
Last time i checked the Al Jazeera Station is located in the middle east. so i think the information you would get off of that channel would be a little more accurate the the news we get on are T.V. station in the U.S. and just because the news is said in arabic doesnt mean its wrong.
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