Obama's Deception.
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I believe that there is some validity in what they are saying. I would never say that they are 100% accurate, but some good points are made.
Why would world elites be meeting together, secretly?
Do you really think the president has any say about anything?
Do you really think there is distinctive party lines in America?
Americans need to open their eyes and see what is going on. Our founding fathers rolled in their graves with the passing of the Patriot Act. Republicans AND Democrats supported it. It is useless to point fingers, because most of those senators have stocks in the companies, have worked with one another, or go yachting with each other. Party lines are **** and America needs real change. Not Obama change. Americans need to help themselves and learn to say **** the government.
damn it all...
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Why would world elites be meeting together, secretly?
Do you really think the president has any say about anything?
Do you really think there is distinctive party lines in America?
Americans need to open their eyes and see what is going on. Our founding fathers rolled in their graves with the passing of the Patriot Act. Republicans AND Democrats supported it. It is useless to point fingers, because most of those senators have stocks in the companies, have worked with one another, or go yachting with each other. Party lines are **** and America needs real change. Not Obama change. Americans need to help themselves and learn to say **** the government.
damn it all...
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I mean if you think about what the government is really doing.. (the president has no say, as you can see Barack has completely done a 180 in office and his short lived "CHANGE and YES WE CAN" is starting to diminish rapidly)
They're going to try and ban weapons, that means amend amendments to discard our 2nd amendment, I wonder why our founding fathers decided ALL people are allowed to bare arms? Protect the constitution, dont let people take it away!
They're going to try and ban weapons, that means amend amendments to discard our 2nd amendment, I wonder why our founding fathers decided ALL people are allowed to bare arms? Protect the constitution, dont let people take it away!
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The rich and the powerful rule the world. Always have, always will. Where is the news?
Yes, there are some strange things brought up in that video. Yes, its kind of sketchy that this group meets every year in complete secrecy. But we are not looking at a new world order. Sorry. Its just not happening.
Yes, there are some strange things brought up in that video. Yes, its kind of sketchy that this group meets every year in complete secrecy. But we are not looking at a new world order. Sorry. Its just not happening.
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People do think I'm nuts when I spring things like this for people to see. You dont have to believe it, but to me that's partly ignorance. Some of the stuff stated in there isn't just to create a cool movie.
People always think people are ****ing nuts for certain things. Some of those guys are right on point. To me it's too obvious that America (more like the international banker cartel) is trying to control the world with America as a pawn.
How about I challenge the rest of you to watch the whole video (because in order to have an understand of why you don't like an idea, you should explore both sides first) instead of shooting blanks from one end without lookin' on the other side of the door.
People always think people are ****ing nuts for certain things. Some of those guys are right on point. To me it's too obvious that America (more like the international banker cartel) is trying to control the world with America as a pawn.
How about I challenge the rest of you to watch the whole video (because in order to have an understand of why you don't like an idea, you should explore both sides first) instead of shooting blanks from one end without lookin' on the other side of the door.
The great thing about conspiracies is that all you have to do is suggest doubt or suspicion and some people will believe that there's automatically truth attached w/o actually having that truth presented. And anybody that doesn't believe that there must be truth behind it is automatically stupid or ignorant.
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The rich and the powerful rule the world. Always have, always will. Where is the news?
Yes, there are some strange things brought up in that video. Yes, its kind of sketchy that this group meets every year in complete secrecy. But we are not looking at a new world order. Sorry. Its just not happening.
Yes, there are some strange things brought up in that video. Yes, its kind of sketchy that this group meets every year in complete secrecy. But we are not looking at a new world order. Sorry. Its just not happening.
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Bohemian Grove Exposed!
Woe unto America! Many of our nation's highest leaders worship Satan, and are willing servants of EVIL. They are controlled by Satan, the god of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4). Satan controls these men through the occult (i.e., "hidden" organizations). Jesus said "in secret have I done nothing" (John 18:20), because He had nothing to hide. Why the secrecy from our nation's top leaders? It's because they are of the Devil. Skull and Bones is of the Devil. Freemasonry is of the Devil. The bizarre pagan ritual of the Bohemian Grove, the Cremation of Care ceremony, is practiced by its members (all men), including both Presidents Bush, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Colin Powell, and Henry Kissinger to name but a few. In this ceremony, they worship a giant 40-foot OWL, and sacrifice a mock human being in effigy. This is Satanism folks! David Rockefeller is also a member of this Satanic group. Arnold Schwarzenegger has also attended it's meetings. Bohemian Grove is believe to be an offshoot of the **** based Skull and Bones. Please watch Illuminazi 911 (video - 1 Hour, 22 Minutes). Also, please watch Martial Law 911: Rise of the Police State (video - 2 Hours, 35 Minutes). The last part of this video exposes the **** roots of the Bush family.
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People do think I'm nuts when I spring things like this for people to see. You dont have to believe it, but to me that's partly ignorance. Some of the stuff stated in there isn't just to create a cool movie.
People always think people are ****ing nuts for certain things. Some of those guys are right on point. To me it's too obvious that America (more like the international banker cartel) is trying to control the world with America as a pawn.
How about I challenge the rest of you to watch the whole video (because in order to have an understand of why you don't like an idea, you should explore both sides first) instead of shooting blanks from one end without lookin' on the other side of the door.
People always think people are ****ing nuts for certain things. Some of those guys are right on point. To me it's too obvious that America (more like the international banker cartel) is trying to control the world with America as a pawn.
How about I challenge the rest of you to watch the whole video (because in order to have an understand of why you don't like an idea, you should explore both sides first) instead of shooting blanks from one end without lookin' on the other side of the door.
In a way, I think that these theories are propagated and encouraged as part of a disinformation campaign so as to discredit REAL conspiracies, e.g., MKULTRA, COINTELPRO, SIGINT/ECHELON, Gulf of Tonkin, etc.
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I mean if you think about what the government is really doing.. (the president has no say, as you can see Barack has completely done a 180 in office and his short lived "CHANGE and YES WE CAN" is starting to diminish rapidly)
They're going to try and ban weapons, that means amend amendments to discard our 2nd amendment, I wonder why our founding fathers decided ALL people are allowed to bare arms? Protect the constitution, dont let people take it away!
They're going to try and ban weapons, that means amend amendments to discard our 2nd amendment, I wonder why our founding fathers decided ALL people are allowed to bare arms? Protect the constitution, dont let people take it away!
A politician, like anyone else, should be judged by their actions--and Obama has consistently voted as a moderate on gun control laws, just like most Republicans.
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Gun policy
As a state legislator in Illinois, Obama supported banning the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms, increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms and requiring manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.[248]
In 1996, during Obama's run for the Illinois State Senate, he was surveyed by a Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois about criminal justice and other issues. Obama's questionnaire showed that he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. Subsequently, Obama denied that his writing was on the document and said that he never favored a ban on the sale and possession of handguns.[249][250][251] In 1999, he urged prohibiting the operation of any gun store within five miles of a school or park, which according to gun-rights advocates would eliminate gun stores from most of the inhabited portion of the United States.[252] He sponsored a bill in 2000 limiting handgun purchases to one per month.
As state senator, he voted against a 2004 measure that allowed self-defense as an affirmative defense for those charged with violating local laws making it otherwise unlawful for such persons to possess firearms.[253] He also voted against allowing persons who had obtained domestic violence protective orders to carry handguns for their protection.[252]
From 1994 through 2002, Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation, which amongst other non-gun related activities provides funds for gun control organizations in the United States.[254][255]
While in the U.S. Senate, Obama has supported several gun control measures, including restricting the purchase of firearms at gun shows and the reauthorization of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.[256] Obama voted against legislation protecting firearm manufacturers from certain liability suits, which gun-rights advocates say are designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.[257] Obama did vote in favor of the 2006 Vitter Amendment to prohibit the confiscation of lawful firearms during an emergency or major disaster, which passed 84-16.[258]
During a February 15, 2008 press conference, Obama stated, "I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation."[259] Obama has also stated his opposition to allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms[260] and supports a national law outlawing the practice,[261][262] saying on Chicago Public Radio in 2004 "I continue to support a ban on concealed carry laws".[263]
Obama initially voiced support of Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban. Following the Supreme Court decision that the ban was unconstitutional, he revised his position in support of the decision overturning the law, saying, "Today's decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe."[264] He also said, in response to the ruling, "I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms... The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view."[265]
After being elected as President, Obama announced that he favors measures that respect Second Amendment rights, while at the same time keeping guns away from children and criminals. He further stated that he supports banning private transfers of firearms at gun shows (referred to as "closing the gun show loophole"), "making guns in this country childproof", and permanently reinstating the expired Assault Weapons Ban.[266]
As a state legislator in Illinois, Obama supported banning the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms, increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms and requiring manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.[248]
In 1996, during Obama's run for the Illinois State Senate, he was surveyed by a Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois about criminal justice and other issues. Obama's questionnaire showed that he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. Subsequently, Obama denied that his writing was on the document and said that he never favored a ban on the sale and possession of handguns.[249][250][251] In 1999, he urged prohibiting the operation of any gun store within five miles of a school or park, which according to gun-rights advocates would eliminate gun stores from most of the inhabited portion of the United States.[252] He sponsored a bill in 2000 limiting handgun purchases to one per month.
As state senator, he voted against a 2004 measure that allowed self-defense as an affirmative defense for those charged with violating local laws making it otherwise unlawful for such persons to possess firearms.[253] He also voted against allowing persons who had obtained domestic violence protective orders to carry handguns for their protection.[252]
From 1994 through 2002, Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation, which amongst other non-gun related activities provides funds for gun control organizations in the United States.[254][255]
While in the U.S. Senate, Obama has supported several gun control measures, including restricting the purchase of firearms at gun shows and the reauthorization of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.[256] Obama voted against legislation protecting firearm manufacturers from certain liability suits, which gun-rights advocates say are designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.[257] Obama did vote in favor of the 2006 Vitter Amendment to prohibit the confiscation of lawful firearms during an emergency or major disaster, which passed 84-16.[258]
During a February 15, 2008 press conference, Obama stated, "I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation."[259] Obama has also stated his opposition to allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms[260] and supports a national law outlawing the practice,[261][262] saying on Chicago Public Radio in 2004 "I continue to support a ban on concealed carry laws".[263]
Obama initially voiced support of Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban. Following the Supreme Court decision that the ban was unconstitutional, he revised his position in support of the decision overturning the law, saying, "Today's decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe."[264] He also said, in response to the ruling, "I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms... The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view."[265]
After being elected as President, Obama announced that he favors measures that respect Second Amendment rights, while at the same time keeping guns away from children and criminals. He further stated that he supports banning private transfers of firearms at gun shows (referred to as "closing the gun show loophole"), "making guns in this country childproof", and permanently reinstating the expired Assault Weapons Ban.[266]
C/N: He tried to ban all hand guns, semi-autos, and overturning concealed weapons rights and got pwned on most occasions, now he knows his place and only as president became a moderate on gun control.
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C/N: He tried to ban all hand guns, semi-autos, and overturning concealed weapons rights and got pwned on most occasions, now he knows his place and only as president became a moderate on gun control.
C/N: He tried to ban all hand guns, semi-autos, and overturning concealed weapons rights and got pwned on most occasions, now he knows his place and only as president became a moderate on gun control.
Now with that out of the way, I suggest you read this: http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/...un_Control.htm
Yes, he leans slightly left of center, but his voting is no more or less indicative of "taking away our guns" than any previous Democrat president.
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