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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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America is ready for an African American to be there President... but not the "old school whities" ....they need to get ready for that BiG slapp that is coming to them...after years of them only having white people up there running this **** and trying there best to NEVER allow a African American to run this country or anyone of color, look at wats happening, this is the worst thing they can allow happend. They are going to be letting dwn everyone that has tried so hard to not allow any color up to run this country! Its not that they look at the facts between both candidates! Some people are ignorant and some just dnt want to get taxed! they want to keep it the same way, The Rich get Richier and the poor get even MORE poor! I hear McCain saying all the time "Country first, Country first" if so...why doesnt the Rich wanna pay taxes? they are RICH! I thought Country first!?!?!?


OBAMA! and wen he wins i will laught at all the greedy Reps who dnt like to pay taxes! hehehe
It's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'm assuming your reasons for voting Obama is because he is black and because he is going to tax those greedy rich people? I guess everyone has their key issues, but really? Oh well, I'm sure you will be just as excited when Obama raises taxes for everyone because that is something his record shows. Also you do realize that those greedy rich people pay most of the taxes in America? And they should pay more because they actually did well for themselves whereas lazy people getting government handouts can sit around doing nothing.
Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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It's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'm assuming your reasons for voting Obama is because he is black and because he is going to tax those greedy rich people? I guess everyone has their key issues, but really? Oh well, I'm sure you will be just as excited when Obama raises taxes for everyone because that is something his record shows. Also you do realize that those greedy rich people pay most of the taxes in America? And they should pay more because they actually did well for themselves whereas lazy people getting government handouts can sit around doing nothing.
they are supposed to pay more cause they make more, it should be a flat rate though, but its the loopholes in the tax system they use to defer actually paying.
Old Oct 11, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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No i think being Gov. of a state like Alaska makes you more qualified, i mean who talks about Alaska now days? what big issues are over there? hehehe man..
Originally Posted by ViVaSuBy
America is ready for an African American to be there President... but not the "old school whities" ....they need to get ready for that BiG slapp that is coming to them...after years of them only having white people up there running this **** and trying there best to NEVER allow a African American to run this country or anyone of color, look at wats happening, this is the worst thing they can allow happend. They are going to be letting dwn everyone that has tried so hard to not allow any color up to run this country! Its not that they look at the facts between both candidates! Some people are ignorant and some just dnt want to get taxed! they want to keep it the same way, The Rich get Richier and the poor get even MORE poor! I hear McCain saying all the time "Country first, Country first" if so...why doesnt the Rich wanna pay taxes? they are RICH! I thought Country first!?!?!?


OBAMA! and wen he wins i will laught at all the greedy Reps who dnt like to pay taxes! hehehe
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McCain has lil dinosour arms....hehe he can barely wave to his crowds! wats he done= Mc****! he will die soon....then be left with a dumb stupid racist lil tramp! way less experience than Obama! no one can tell me she can run this country better than Obama if were talking about experience! only and ignorant Rep. would say and think this! LOOK at the FACTS!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ViVaSuBy
McCain has lil dinosour arms....hehe he can barely wave to his crowds! wats he done= Mc****! he will die soon....then be left with a dumb stupid racist lil tramp! way less experience than Obama! no one can tell me she can run this country better than Obama if were talking about experience! only and ignorant Rep. would say and think this! LOOK at the FACTS!
You know, I never realized this until you posted. He does have the little dinosaur arms. Reminds me of the Tyrannosaurus Rex in Toy Story.
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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they are supposed to pay more cause they make more, it should be a flat rate though, but its the loopholes in the tax system they use to defer actually paying.
So do you think it is fair for someone making 20K a year to pay the same as someone making 250K a year? Or are you saying the "Rich" should have a standardized rate across the board?

Just checking.
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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I agree there should be a flat rate. Then we wouldn't need that wonderful organization called the IRS. Hell, I'd even support a consumption tax instead of an income tax. An income tax is such rip off if it was a flat tax across the board then the rich would still be paying more, but wouldn't be penalized for making a better living.
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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AND WHY DO YOU WE HAVE TO TAX EVERYONE ???????? thanks to our fearless leader GW BUSH ! when he started in office we had a money surplus.... now we are TRILLIONS in dept... Obama needs to tax to make up for the mistakes of the republican party these last two terms !
maybe if americans paid back their credit card debt on time, our nation will still be fine. Bush didn't f* up our economy; american citizens with a tendency to spend on impulse that can't pay back their debts f* things up for the world. Bad mortgages? Banks with employees that didn't think about checking people's credit and income before lending out. Banks and American Citizens f* up the nation. Not the president. Americans are so focused on Iraq (specifically pulling out) and the economy being sour...; that they forgot that Iraq has a new president ( if we pulled out early, chaos will still reign), our own citizens f*ed up the economy, Bush brought our ties with China, India, and other nations such as Vietnam closer for trade and international economic issues. Since Bush became president, terrorism around the world has decreased. Because of Bush's reaction, other leaders of nations followed suit. The damage done by terrorists were minor compared to many bombings of the late 80's and during the 90's.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ViVaSuBy
America is ready for an African American to be there President... but not the "old school whities" ....they need to get ready for that BiG slapp that is coming to them...after years of them only having white people up there running this **** and trying there best to NEVER allow a African American to run this country or anyone of color, look at wats happening, this is the worst thing they can allow happend. They are going to be letting dwn everyone that has tried so hard to not allow any color up to run this country! Its not that they look at the facts between both candidates! Some people are ignorant and some just dnt want to get taxed! they want to keep it the same way, The Rich get Richier and the poor get even MORE poor! I hear McCain saying all the time "Country first, Country first" if so...why doesnt the Rich wanna pay taxes? they are RICH! I thought Country first!?!?!?


OBAMA! and wen he wins i will laught at all the greedy Reps who dnt like to pay taxes! hehehe

It takes money to make money. Period. What a lot of "rich people" do is invest in business. Use a little money, make a good investment... use the returns and reinvest. You don't think they pay taxes? They pay taxes up the ***. But, its what and how you invest that matters with taxation. Tax Act of 2003 for example~ If you have an investment in the market for over 12 Months of ownership: Taxed at 15%. If you invest under 12months: taxed at income bracket.
A lot of tax laws created in America is to promote economic growth. Govt wants you to help the nation economically so they do give you a lot of breaks if you know how to utilize it to its full potential... in the end it benefits the nation and yourself.
Now... the poor gets more poor... that issue.... *hahahaaa.* A lot of those people just doesn't make good economic decisions. For example's': Too many kids (having kids too early...thats expensive), accidentally having kids, shopping too much when they know they have to pay rent, credit card debt that they can't pay back, bad martgages.. i can go on and on. I know a lot of poor people, they stay poor because of their lifestyle; they go out too much. You can't be rich without saving money. Period. Just meet more people of different social ladders and you can tell instantly their points-of-view towards money, business, and lifestyle; totally different.

Even if Obama wins... the rich gets more rich; they know how money works and will still continue to use it to its full potential. The world markets are now more closely related to each other in how the trend moves and how quickly it affects each other, therefore easier for the rich to access more markets to invest and become wealthier.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KOSTI
So do you think it is fair for someone making 20K a year to pay the same as someone making 250K a year? Or are you saying the "Rich" should have a standardized rate across the board?

Just checking.
All wage earners should be paying the same in taxes, percentage-wise.
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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i'm still going for obama
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
All wage earners should be paying the same in taxes, percentage-wise.
Thanks for clarifying
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
All wage earners should be paying the same in taxes, percentage-wise.
As long as they can make it work.

It's simpler, easier, requires much less manpower to maintain, and it highly encourages people to make more money. There's a got to be a few smart people that can work together who can design that system to work.
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Is this the type of change Obama wants for America?

Obama's Kenya ghosts?

About 50 parishioners were locked into the Assemblies of God church before it was set ablaze. They were mostly women and children. Those who tried to flee were hacked to death by machete-wielding members of a mob numbering 2,000.

The 2008 New Year Day atrocity in the Kenyan village Eldoret, about 185 miles northwest of Nairobi, had all the markings of the Rwanda genocide of a decade earlier.

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians.

The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007...

...he received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 to campaign on his behalf. Mr. Obama denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise....

...Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama's six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies...

..."Kenyans are now yearning for change," he declared. The intent of Mr. Obama's remarks and actions was transparent to Kenyans - he was firmly behind Mr. Odinga.
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Did Obama and the DEMs cause the Mortgage fiasco?
Plus, there's another mess that links Obama to ACORN.

Still want to vote for him?

How could Obama's hand in this help?
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Paul will believe anything you say as long as it's bad and pertains to democrats.

McCain and Palin have such impeccable pasts it's a wonder why they aren't ahead in the polls. Must be there solid economic and foreign policies. Or maybe it's because their entire campaign for the last month has just been to ask questions about Obama the anti-American terrorist who wants to steal your money and take your jobs.

Republican campaign: Even though Obama has only been in the senate for 3 years, we can't seem to convince any independents that our policies are actually better than his. Lets dig up his entire past and criticize anyone that he's ever met...... Oh that's not working either??? ****, we really don't have anything else but.... MAVERICK!


Same old stuff. Republican's can't seem to get any more votes by having a better plan for the country, so why not just criticize every trivial aspect about the opponent, who's currently ahead in the polls.

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