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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Dunno.. my impression of the clan is that it's more a movement of ideas now, not like blowing up school busses or children-filled schools like muslims have done.
A "movement of ideas?" Are you ****ing kidding me?
Old May 29, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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A "movement of ideas?" Are you ****ing kidding me?
Dunno...how about you tell me when the last clasman committed mass murder.

Nothing like this: www.thereligionofpeace.com

Wait a minute... aren't you in the "war of ideas" camp?
Old May 29, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Dunno...how about you tell me when the last clasman committed mass murder.

Nothing like this: www.thereligionofpeace.com

Wait a minute... aren't you in the "war of ideas" camp?
My poitn about the KKK was not that they are violent, but that their "ideas" are completely ignorant and do not work in this world. As for the "war of ideas" bit... I don't know what you're talking about, so probably not.
Old May 30, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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Look I'm about as middle of the road as they come but can we please stop the shameless plugs of that stupid website that Hella posts every chance he can?

He must be the site owner as much as he plugs it.

Hella, didn't anyone teach you in sunday school that real christian's don't hate?
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Why is the website "stupid"?
Old May 30, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Look I'm about as middle of the road as they come but can we please stop the shameless plugs of that stupid website that Hella posts every chance he can?

He must be the site owner as much as he plugs it.

Hella, didn't anyone teach you in sunday school that real christian's don't hate?
I try not to hate... I actually think I do not.

For as much as anyone calls the KKK hateful and evil, KKK members are a more peaceful group in practice regarldless of how "moderate" their views are.

Why do you have a problem with that information being linked... do you think it is false or misleading?

How would you like it if there was an article about how most KKK members were moderate? You'd call BS, right?

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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Why do you have a problem with that information being linked... do you think it is false or misleading?
It is false and misleading because the majority of Islam is peaceful. I don't expect that you would be able to comprehend that though.
If Islam is interpreted the way a majority of its followers interpret it then nobody has any problems.

How would you feel if I made a website that slammed Christianity because of the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church? It's the same sort of thing.

Originally Posted by HellaDumb
For as much as anyone calls the KKK hateful and evil, KKK members are a more peaceful group in practice regarldless of how "moderate" their views are.

How would you like it if there was an article about how most KKK members were moderate? You'd call BS, right?
It is estimated that only a few thousand klan members remain nationwide. Comparing an organization such as this to Islam lacks depth. The KKK was built on hate. It could be that a majority of KKK members would not resort to violence to fulfill their mission but I think if you compared the percentages then a higher percent of KKK members would find violence against Immigrant/African American/Jewish, *insert any minority here* acceptable than followers of Islam, percentage-wise

No one is polling the 3000 Klan members though because they don't make it known who they are openly for the most part.
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The point you're missing is that the Klan never tries to come across as "peaceful", or rather, particular sects of the Klan don't refer to themselves as "moderate" or peaceful.

I'm willing to bet the farm that if push comes to shove, moderate Muslims will pick being Muslim over being American.
Old May 30, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
The point you're missing is that the Klan never tries to come across as "peaceful", or rather, particular sects of the Klan don't refer to themselves as "moderate" or peaceful.

I'm willing to bet the farm that if push comes to shove, moderate Muslims will pick being Muslim over being American.
Just as Christians or Jews of honest faith should choose it over country as well.
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Just as Christians or Jews of honest faith should choose it over country as well.
But the question is not about what non violent Christians & Jews are doing but what Muslims are doing....
Old May 30, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
But the question is not about what non violent Christians & Jews are doing but what Muslims are doing....
Yeah, because fundamentalist Christians don't firebomb black churches or assault/murder abortionists.
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Yeah, because fundamentalist Christians don't firebomb black churches or assault/murder abortionists.
You have got be out of your goddam mind...comparing fundamentalist Christians to Muslim terrorists.
Are you being serious!?!

So, since you're on a roll, how many Jews have gone on a rampage in the US?

Jesus ****ing Christ....
Old May 30, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
You have got be out of your goddam mind...comparing fundamentalist Christians to Muslim terrorists.
Are you being serious!?!
how are they any different? they both commit crimes in the name of a religion that they missinterperet. i think you just have to admit that you have a biased against muslims.
Old May 30, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spedmunki
how are they any different? they both commit crimes in the name of a religion that they missinterperet. i think you just have to admit that you have a biased against muslims.
You are insane...can't compare at few hundred vs thousands killed.
And yes, I'm baised against Muslims.

Can you admit your baises?
Old May 30, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned

Can you admit your baises?
yes. i am biased towards organized religions. they may bring people the hope that we are living for a reason, and inspire people to live law abiding lives, but the way that they are organized and their relationships with goverments (or lack thereoff), will and always have breeded ignorance and intolerance towards others.



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