Lewinski v. NSA spying scandal: By the numbers
01-22-2006, 06:20 AM
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Lewinski v. NSA spying scandal: By the numbers
From mediamatters:
Liberal media my ***.
Originally Posted by mediamatters
On January 22, the day after The Washington Post first broke the Lewinsky story, the paper ran ... a total of 11 articles, written by or using contributions from at least 20 reporters, and comprising 11,844 words dedicated to allegations that the president lied about a consensual relationship.
The New York Times gave the story similar treatment....a total of eight articles, written by at least eight reporters, comprising 9,044 words.
Now, here's what the Post did on December 17 -- the day after the initial disclosure of the Bush administration's use of the National Security Agency (NSA) to conduct domestic surveillance that has been widely described as an illegal trampling of the Constitution.... Three articles, eight reporters, 3,227 words -- and that's generously including the USA Patriot Act article in the tally.
And from the Times, which had broken the NSA story the day before.... two articles, four reporters, 3,076 words.
All told, on January 22, 1998, the Times and the Post ran 19 articles (five on the front page) dealing with the Clinton investigation, totaling more than 20,000 words and reflecting the words of at least 28 reporters -- plus the editorial boards of both newspapers.
In contrast, on December 17, the Times and the Post combined to run five articles about the NSA spying operation, involving 12 reporters and consisting of 6,303 words.
The New York Times gave the story similar treatment....a total of eight articles, written by at least eight reporters, comprising 9,044 words.
Now, here's what the Post did on December 17 -- the day after the initial disclosure of the Bush administration's use of the National Security Agency (NSA) to conduct domestic surveillance that has been widely described as an illegal trampling of the Constitution.... Three articles, eight reporters, 3,227 words -- and that's generously including the USA Patriot Act article in the tally.
And from the Times, which had broken the NSA story the day before.... two articles, four reporters, 3,076 words.
All told, on January 22, 1998, the Times and the Post ran 19 articles (five on the front page) dealing with the Clinton investigation, totaling more than 20,000 words and reflecting the words of at least 28 reporters -- plus the editorial boards of both newspapers.
In contrast, on December 17, the Times and the Post combined to run five articles about the NSA spying operation, involving 12 reporters and consisting of 6,303 words.
01-22-2006, 08:38 AM
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I think you might be missing the forest for the trees. Newspapers above all else are based on circulation. The lewinski situation was easily put into digestible junks. Don't forget the average newspaper is written at an eigth grade level. The situation with Bush, while more of a story is not easily put into simple terms and is by no means eye catching to the common man.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
From mediamatters:
Liberal media my ***.
Liberal media my ***.
It's quite hilarious that any filthy liberal would try to compare the NSA spying story where a Republican president is trying to stretch the law to protect his contrymen versus a democrat who's presidency was spent ******** interns (and lying about it) while Osama was putting bombs in the WTC.
Do you really want to associate yourself with that article?
Oh, and don't forget, sex sells
01-23-2006, 05:26 AM
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Ah...I was laboring under the illusion that reporting the NEWS was what major media outlets do.
I'm not talking about newsmax or some tabloid here. These are supposedly serious print media outlets. "sex sells" is no excuse.
I'm not talking about newsmax or some tabloid here. These are supposedly serious print media outlets. "sex sells" is no excuse.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Ah...I was laboring under the illusion that reporting the NEWS was what major media outlets do.
I'm not talking about newsmax or some tabloid here. These are supposedly serious print media outlets. "sex sells" is no excuse.
I'm not talking about newsmax or some tabloid here. These are supposedly serious print media outlets. "sex sells" is no excuse.
01-23-2006, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Ah...I was laboring under the illusion that reporting the NEWS was what major media outlets do.
I'm not talking about newsmax or some tabloid here. These are supposedly serious print media outlets. "sex sells" is no excuse.
I'm not talking about newsmax or some tabloid here. These are supposedly serious print media outlets. "sex sells" is no excuse.
01-23-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jvick125
BS, pure and simple. If you think that the same amount of, or more, people are going to care about some evesdropping store compared to the Lewinski trial, you need to take a look at our society and culture.
01-23-2006, 01:50 PM
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You may be right that it is that way but it doesn't make it right. Violations of Americans civil rights should always trump a story about sex. Unfortunately it isn't that way.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
You may be right that it is that way but it doesn't make it right. Violations of Americans civil rights should always trump a story about sex. Unfortunately it isn't that way.
One was an unproven accusation of riding the edge of the law in order to protect American lives (which as of yet has not yet been adequately explored and understood), while the other guy was ******** while on the clock while sandy berger was stuffing national secrets in his socks.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
You may be right that it is that way but it doesn't make it right. Violations of Americans civil rights should always trump a story about sex. Unfortunately it isn't that way.
Substitute a few words in your statement and that's exactly how I feel about the coverage of OIF/OEF.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Now wait a minute... do you KNOW that any specific American(s) had their civil rights violated, or are you just receiving transmissions from "Mix-Master Howard Dean"?
Do I really need to bring up Huck's predicament again...that's just one story that we know about through this board, I'm sure there are tons of others just like him.
You sure do like to throw around the accusation of people 'spining' things considering how many of the 'facts' you state are from spinmasters.
01-23-2006, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
I agree.
Substitute a few words in your statement and that's exactly how I feel about the coverage of OIF/OEF.
Substitute a few words in your statement and that's exactly how I feel about the coverage of OIF/OEF.
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