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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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i dont doubt that... but when you are in the country and you declare residency in that country.......dont you think you should speak the language?
I didn't know that freedom of speech was only limited to English?
Old May 21, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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We DO NOT have a declared national language. It is that simple. Until that happens, stop your *****ing.
English is the "official" language in California.
Old May 21, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
I didn't know that freedom of speech was only limited to English?
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a language on a ballot card.
Old May 21, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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Im pretty sure if i moved to mexico, some country in South America...... I woudlnt get far without speaking spanish.....why should it be any different here?
Old May 21, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidchicken03
Im pretty sure if i moved to mexico, some country in South America...... I woudlnt get far without speaking spanish.....why should it be any different here?
If the other countries jumped off a bridge.....
Old May 21, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a language on a ballot card.
What DOES language on a ballot card have to do with?
Old May 21, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
What DOES language on a ballot card have to do with?
The last ballot measures were all designed that, if passed, the state would save money.

I pointed out that if the state wanted to save money, it should only print the ballots in English, which is the official language here in California.

Just think how many teachers would still have their jobs if the millions of dollars that are wasted on printing Unconstitutional multi lingual ballots instead went to education.
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i agree they should have to speak/read english.
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german would be our language if we decided on one at teh end of the revol war
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If the other countries jumped off a bridge.....
they already have
Old May 21, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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no theyt didnt we pushed them
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Old May 21, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
The last ballot measures were all designed that, if passed, the state would save money.

I pointed out that if the state wanted to save money, it should only print the ballots in English, which is the official language here in California.

Just think how many teachers would still have their jobs if the millions of dollars that are wasted on printing Unconstitutional multi lingual ballots instead went to education.
I'd like to see some actual data to show that millions were spent printing ballots in other languages. Think about how many Cali school teachers would still be employed if the state actually came up with a viable budget instead of guessing and winding up $15-21 billion short. I guess they can't even tell how much they overspent.


Where in the constitution is there a "no English=no vote" clause? I could not find anything binding the English language with public voting. English is deemed the official language of California to the extent that it does not conflict with our rights provided in the US constitution.

ARTICLE 2 VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL

ARTICLE 3 STATE OF CALIFORNIA (see Sec. 6 for "official language" provisions)

Financial issues shouldn't be solely dictated by financial issues, and visa versa.
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Nvm, idc.

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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
I'd like to see some actual data to show that millions were spent printing ballots in other languages. Think about how many Cali school teachers would still be employed if the state actually came up with a viable budget instead of guessing and winding up $15-21 billion short. I guess they can't even tell how much they overspent.


Where in the constitution is there a "no English=no vote" clause? I could not find anything binding the English language with public voting. English is deemed the official language of California to the extent that it does not conflict with our rights provided in the US constitution.

ARTICLE 2 VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL

ARTICLE 3 STATE OF CALIFORNIA (see Sec. 6 for "official language" provisions)

Financial issues shouldn't be solely dictated by financial issues, and visa versa.
The dollars in which it costs to provide information packets, materials, translators, ballots, etc would have to be a significant amount.
You might as well be shooting in the dark without a clear understanding of what you are voting on. It's hard enough to get people who are literate and speak English to understand what they are voting for.



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