Gorbachev ruins Soviet Union, now has nerve to give advise (criticism) to U.S.
07-27-2007, 11:40 AM
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Gorbachev ruins Soviet Union, now has nerve to give advise (criticism) to U.S.
It's a classic, though I'm sure the liberal America-haters will agree with spot:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19994563
Gorbachev: U.S. sowing world 'disorder'
Ex-Soviet premier blasts Bush as helping create ‘very dangerous’ situation
Reuters
MOSCOW - Former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev criticized the United States, and President Bush in particular, on Friday for sowing disorder across the world by seeking to build an empire.
Gorbachev, who presided over the break-up of the Soviet Union, said Washington had sought to build an empire after the Cold War ended but had failed to understand the changing world.
“The Americans then gave birth to the idea of a new empire, world leadership by a single power, and what followed?” Gorbachev asked reporters at a news conference in Moscow.
“What has followed are unilateral actions, what has followed are wars, what has followed is ignoring the U.N. Security Council, ignoring international law and ignoring the will of the people, even the American people,” he said.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Bush say they are friends but ties have been strained by U.S. plans for a missile defense shield in Europe, disagreements over Kosovo and the war in Iraq, and competition for allies in the former Soviet Union.
Rival and enemy?
Many Russians view the United States as a rival and enemy.
Gorbachev, 76, who left politics after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, is deeply unpopular in Russia. Though feted abroad, he is blamed in Russia for sinking the Soviet empire and plunging millions into poverty.
“When I look at today’s world I have a worrying feeling about the growth of world disorder,” he said.
“I don’t think the current president of the United States and his administration will be able to change the situation as it is developing now — it is very dangerous,” he said.
‘Massive strategic mistake’
Gorbachev said Russia’s hopes of building stronger ties with Washington had waned in the face of a series of U.S. administrations interested in building an empire.
“It is a massive strategic mistake: no single center can command the entire world, no one,” he said. “Current America has made so many mistakes.”
He said the U.S. administration was apparently unable to adapt to a swiftly changing world and had ignored — or was unable to see — the rise of Brazil, Russia, India and China as economic heavyweights.
Treaties limiting the number of nuclear weapons should be observed, he said, adding that officials in Washington should be wary of sparking a new arms race.
Gorbachev, who became Soviet leader in 1985, battled against the conservative wing of the Communist Party to push through reforms that dismantled the one-party system, freed the press and ended restrictions on religion.
The father of “glasnost” (openness) said he supported Putin’s policies but that the pro-Kremlin United Russia party had eroded democratic rights.
He said Putin’s “seriousness” as a leader would be assured if he left office according to the constitution. Putin says he will leave office in 2008 after two terms in office.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19994563
Gorbachev: U.S. sowing world 'disorder'
Ex-Soviet premier blasts Bush as helping create ‘very dangerous’ situation
Reuters
MOSCOW - Former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev criticized the United States, and President Bush in particular, on Friday for sowing disorder across the world by seeking to build an empire.
Gorbachev, who presided over the break-up of the Soviet Union, said Washington had sought to build an empire after the Cold War ended but had failed to understand the changing world.
“The Americans then gave birth to the idea of a new empire, world leadership by a single power, and what followed?” Gorbachev asked reporters at a news conference in Moscow.
“What has followed are unilateral actions, what has followed are wars, what has followed is ignoring the U.N. Security Council, ignoring international law and ignoring the will of the people, even the American people,” he said.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Bush say they are friends but ties have been strained by U.S. plans for a missile defense shield in Europe, disagreements over Kosovo and the war in Iraq, and competition for allies in the former Soviet Union.
Rival and enemy?
Many Russians view the United States as a rival and enemy.
Gorbachev, 76, who left politics after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, is deeply unpopular in Russia. Though feted abroad, he is blamed in Russia for sinking the Soviet empire and plunging millions into poverty.
“When I look at today’s world I have a worrying feeling about the growth of world disorder,” he said.
“I don’t think the current president of the United States and his administration will be able to change the situation as it is developing now — it is very dangerous,” he said.
‘Massive strategic mistake’
Gorbachev said Russia’s hopes of building stronger ties with Washington had waned in the face of a series of U.S. administrations interested in building an empire.
“It is a massive strategic mistake: no single center can command the entire world, no one,” he said. “Current America has made so many mistakes.”
He said the U.S. administration was apparently unable to adapt to a swiftly changing world and had ignored — or was unable to see — the rise of Brazil, Russia, India and China as economic heavyweights.
Treaties limiting the number of nuclear weapons should be observed, he said, adding that officials in Washington should be wary of sparking a new arms race.
Gorbachev, who became Soviet leader in 1985, battled against the conservative wing of the Communist Party to push through reforms that dismantled the one-party system, freed the press and ended restrictions on religion.
The father of “glasnost” (openness) said he supported Putin’s policies but that the pro-Kremlin United Russia party had eroded democratic rights.
He said Putin’s “seriousness” as a leader would be assured if he left office according to the constitution. Putin says he will leave office in 2008 after two terms in office.
07-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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But Gorbie was Regan's bud and he helped save Russia and make the world safe for democracy by as you say- "destroying the Soviet Union".
Unless you think we were all better off when the cold war was raging.
Whose side are you on? why do you hate democracy and freedom?
Unless you think we were all better off when the cold war was raging.
Whose side are you on? why do you hate democracy and freedom?
07-27-2007, 12:28 PM
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He's basically saying we were better off when the cold war was raging. He's basically right, but it's due to his own mismanagement. With his history, he's no one to judge Bush. Spot's mismanagement of Russia let russian arms fall into many of our enemies' hands. As an example, the known threat of a suitcase nuke is due to our pal Spot. Heck, even spot's approval rating is worse in Russia than Bush's is here.To be clear I'm for the democracy and freedom of some, but many don't deserve it. For instance, I think that liberals who try to ban freedom of speech under the guise of hate speech should be deported to russia or cuba.
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