Democrats: Health care is a right
07-16-2009, 11:08 AM
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I'm not saying the plan proposed in the HR's bill is the best, but I am saying that SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. The health care system cannot stay the way it is now.
Did you guys know that there are also lifetime spending caps on insurance policies? "Oh, you're sick and actually need to use what you're paying for. Yeah, thats not going to work for us, you're on your own now."
The insurance companies are ****ED UP. And something has to be done!
Paul, I never followed up, did your fat *** get Type II yet?
07-16-2009, 11:14 AM
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So you think it'd be better to just turn a blind eye to the problems? "Oh well, doesn't affect me right now, so who cares."
I'm not saying the plan proposed in the HR's bill is the best, but I am saying that SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. The health care system cannot stay the way it is now.
Did you guys know that there are also lifetime spending caps on insurance policies? "Oh, you're sick and actually need to use what you're paying for. Yeah, thats not going to work for us, you're on your own now."
The insurance companies are ****ED UP. And something has to be done!
Paul, I never followed up, did your fat *** get Type II yet?
I'm not saying the plan proposed in the HR's bill is the best, but I am saying that SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. The health care system cannot stay the way it is now.
Did you guys know that there are also lifetime spending caps on insurance policies? "Oh, you're sick and actually need to use what you're paying for. Yeah, thats not going to work for us, you're on your own now."
The insurance companies are ****ED UP. And something has to be done!
Paul, I never followed up, did your fat *** get Type II yet?
...and you want to make them responsible for your care?
....do you smoke pot for your diabetes or something?
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07-16-2009, 11:18 AM
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Paul isn't the only one to consider ordering insulin via Canada.
And of course, the price range in US pharmacies.
I have posted here before and have told why I am paying full price for Humalog....I think 91.75 at Sam's Wholesale Club.
On line there is a Canadian Pharmacy selling it for 43.99 plus 12.00 shipping per order (could even be more than one vial). A prescription is not needed for Humalog in Canada.
I use two vials a month and am thinking of ordering two. Since it could be 10-12 days before it got here packed in a cold pack (which probably is not cold after three days) I am a little concerned about it not being refrigerated during the shipping time. The lady on the phone there says it all would have to be used within 30 days. I am not always sure I would use quite the two vials according to what I eat.
You can tell I am a bit nervous about this or I would not be posting here. What do you think?
Any one in the states using a Canadian pharmacy to save?
Thanks,
Nita
On line there is a Canadian Pharmacy selling it for 43.99 plus 12.00 shipping per order (could even be more than one vial). A prescription is not needed for Humalog in Canada.
I use two vials a month and am thinking of ordering two. Since it could be 10-12 days before it got here packed in a cold pack (which probably is not cold after three days) I am a little concerned about it not being refrigerated during the shipping time. The lady on the phone there says it all would have to be used within 30 days. I am not always sure I would use quite the two vials according to what I eat.
You can tell I am a bit nervous about this or I would not be posting here. What do you think?
Any one in the states using a Canadian pharmacy to save?
Thanks,
Nita
I would be a bit suspicious about why it would take 10-12 days to travel from anyplace in Canada to anyplace in the US, to me that sounds more like one of those foreign places with a Canadian "order center", and while it might be legit I think we've all seen the reports of watered down or relabeled expired drugs coming from these places. I would think a reputable Canadian pharmacy would insist on FedEx or UPS for a perishable item like that traveling from Canada to Texas.
A while ago, during the inevitable insurance screw up, I checked prices at 6 pharmacies for a single vial of Humalog. The highest price for the vial was $114.50 at a well-known national drug store chain. The lowest price was $86.50 at a pharmacy in a small regional food store chain.
Prices for Humalog are dramatically lower in Europe. I think in the 30 Euro range for a vial. Been a while, and my memory isn't what it never was.
Doug
Prices for Humalog are dramatically lower in Europe. I think in the 30 Euro range for a vial. Been a while, and my memory isn't what it never was.
Doug
07-16-2009, 11:20 AM
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HAHAHAAAA!! 
1June09, I weighed in @ 250lbs.
I'm now a svelt 237lbs and dropping...go back for another blood test in September.
My last A1c(?) test number was 5.4...with >6.0 being diabetic.
No/minimal sugar, no/minimal carbs, lots off fruit, fiber, & fatty McFatty drinks. No fast food, with the exception of a Subway sandwich 2X/wk.
Have switched to light beer and drink much less per night than I used to.
1June09, I weighed in @ 250lbs.
I'm now a svelt 237lbs and dropping...go back for another blood test in September.
My last A1c(?) test number was 5.4...with >6.0 being diabetic.
No/minimal sugar, no/minimal carbs, lots off fruit, fiber, & fatty McFatty drinks. No fast food, with the exception of a Subway sandwich 2X/wk.
Have switched to light beer and drink much less per night than I used to.
07-16-2009, 11:28 AM
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HAHAHAAAA!!
1June09, I weighed in @ 250lbs.
I'm now a svelt 237lbs and dropping...go back for another blood test in September.
My last A1c(?) test number was 5.4...with >6.0 being diabetic.
No/minimal sugar, no/minimal carbs, lots off fruit, fiber, & fatty McFatty drinks. No fast food, with the exception of a Subway sandwich 2X/wk.
Have switched to light beer and drink much less per night than I used to.
1June09, I weighed in @ 250lbs.
I'm now a svelt 237lbs and dropping...go back for another blood test in September.
My last A1c(?) test number was 5.4...with >6.0 being diabetic.
No/minimal sugar, no/minimal carbs, lots off fruit, fiber, & fatty McFatty drinks. No fast food, with the exception of a Subway sandwich 2X/wk.
Have switched to light beer and drink much less per night than I used to.
I yelled and screamed at the insurance to cover the entire supply of insulin. They agreed to cover that and then went on to try to not cover the antiseptic wipes for the insulin pump. Yay infections! Infections cause your blood sugar to skyrocket uncontrollably. And then, because your blood sugar is high, that gives the bacteria more to feed on, making it harder to get rid of. Wonderful how the insurance just looks at initial cost (not even bottom line). ****, they aren't even good businessmen
Since the antiseptic wipes I haven't had an issue, but it's coming time to replace the insulin pump, we'll see how that goes.
07-16-2009, 11:41 AM
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THE FED IS NEVER ACCURATE. They DOWNPLAY the costs ALL the time to make it look good, but in the end it ends up being WAYYYY and I mean WAYYY over the cost of what they esimate. I don't know why ANYONE would even use their explanation of how they came up with their #'s, they've never been accurate at all.
07-16-2009, 11:50 AM
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This plan sucks. Don't be fooled there will be no option for private insured medicine. The feds will accomplish this economically. Figures estimate ~%80 of Americans will be under a federal heathcare plan. By sheer numbers doctors will be obligated to register and participate under the federal healthcare system. Now the fed will have access to your medical records. It stands within reason one could be denied Medicaid benefits because of past medical history.
Healthcare is not a right. You have a right to pursue a job with benefits that will provide heathcare to you and your family.
Healthcare is not a right. You have a right to pursue a job with benefits that will provide heathcare to you and your family.
Why is healthcare not a right? This is an honest question. Why should health be determined by wealth? I wonder if you would feel differently about this if you had no support system (family for example) and ran into a string of unfortunate circumstances that left you without a job or options.
Would being denied benefits based on medical history be a new thing? Because I know of people paying for their own benefits (ie, self employed, own the policy) who have been denied coverage based on history.
07-16-2009, 11:55 AM
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I have no problem whatsoever with a low buy in, low cost, all accepting government controlled healthcare program.
HOWEVER
I wouldn't use it and I refuse to have my taxes RAISED for it.
You can keep taking the amount you are taking; but FFS - it's time to start cutting the budget SOMEWHERE. How about we start with cutting congressional employees budgets and pensions?
Or former presidents pensions?
HOWEVER
I wouldn't use it and I refuse to have my taxes RAISED for it.
You can keep taking the amount you are taking; but FFS - it's time to start cutting the budget SOMEWHERE. How about we start with cutting congressional employees budgets and pensions?
Or former presidents pensions?
07-16-2009, 12:01 PM
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What is scary is that in England - if you are over 65 and need an operation; there is a very high likelihood they will simply tell you 'No, you are too old and the cost is not worth it, sorry.' and let you die.
Sorry, I'm not down with that.
Sorry, I'm not down with that.
07-16-2009, 12:02 PM
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As an aside, no, I don't work for the insurance companies, and any work I have done relating to health insurance has been on the side of the patients, advocating for greater coverage. At the moment, I do not have/cannot afford health insurance, and when I did have it (through a previous employer) I never used it, so my premium payments were, I guess, "wasted."
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