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"Bush's 7 Deadly Sins" [Environmental Record]

Old Sep 21, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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There is more to the article, but this is enough. Who cares about an endangered fly? Only stupid environmentalists!!! There have been millions of anilmals that have gone extinct, and I don't think losing a fly is going to matter. Thank you liberal wackos!!!! Development is good for the economy. Who knows how many jobs are prevented from being created because of Greenie Wienies, and there silly little crusades to stop development!!!!!
Consider this then. The bald eagle is on the same endagered species list as that fly. That said, say the development is going to destroy the eagles habitat. Do you think it is ok to destroy the eagle at the cost of making some condo's for some rich a$$holes to polute the coastline even further. You can't say that one animal on the endangered list takes a higher priority than another. Granted it is a fly and I can see some of the point I just don't think some condo's or houses on the coast are of that much importance. They should just make said coastline a national forest and prohibit all development on the site. I don't know about you but I would like to take my kids to some sand dunes one day and not to a nice sub-division on the ocean.
Old Sep 21, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Petty
How bout a fly.

CHELSEA J. CARTER, Associated Press
The Columbian
08-25-1999
COLTON, Calif. -- Southern California construction projects worth hundreds of millions are being held up by a fly in the development.
The U.S. government has all but halted development across the sand dunes in the desert east of Los Angeles to protect the tiny Delhi Sands flower-loving fly the only fly ever to make the Endangered Species List.
Some people can't believe the fuss being made over a bug.
"People feel like their community is being run by a fly. Where it can develop, when it can develop all dictated by a fly," said Ray Bragg, a development official in Fontana, one of several small cities whose plans have been thwarted by the orange-brown insect the size of a straight pin.
The flies' only known breeding grounds are the Delhi Sands dunes stretching from San Bernardino to Riverside to Ontario, about 60 miles from Los Angeles. The fine dunes were created by Santa Ana wi...

There is more to the article, but this is enough. Who cares about an endangered fly? Only stupid environmentalists!!! There have been millions of anilmals that have gone extinct, and I don't think losing a fly is going to matter. Thank you liberal wackos!!!! Development is good for the economy. Who knows how many jobs are prevented from being created because of Greenie Wienies, and there silly little crusades to stop development!!!!!

(in red-neck engrish)...."dang Cooter, if'n them damn indegnus Indians wood just geet off'n the land, we could build us a damn near rightly kinda gubernment. Maybe we ought'n to just keel them instead? Thays in the ways of our new condo!"

OK, not the best way to say it, but I hope some of you get the point.
Old Sep 21, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Petty
Who cares about an endangered fly? Only stupid environmentalists!!!
This further illustrates my point above. I think it is interesting that a solution to driving a "gas-guzzling" turbocharged car is to get a sport bike, which presumably has no catalytic converter and far worse emissions per mile.

Carry on.
Old Sep 21, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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that did not post right LOL


Basically all Urban areas take up about 5.4% of the total square miles of the United States which is 3,537,438 square miles

That is alot of land left!!!!!!
I remember reading somewhere that Texas is so big that every human on the planet could be moved there and the population density would be no higher than Tokyo's.

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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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BLeh I like my big backyard and living near protected lands....So don't start getting any ideas of moving to austin!
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Environmentalists are people who are enlightened with the concept of the future and a little empathy.
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MonkeyAB
Environmentalists are people who are enlightened with the concept of the future and a little empathy.
Nice quote, I like it a lot. This thread is focusing on oil pretty heavily considering the topic is the environment as a whole. Even if you ignore what Bush has done in terms of oil drilling and exploration, he has fouled up so much of the other environmental legislation that it's almost irresponsible to vote for him (for your childrens sake, or their childrens sake). To be honest, global warming isn't even that big a deal compared to the other more acute problems Bush has created in the environment. The ground level ozone and smog, the ozone hole, NOx's, VOx's, SOx's...they all cause chronic lung problems. You say you don't live close enough to traffic areas for it to be a problem? Well the polution levels can be highest in farm lands and fields far away from any freeway or industrial center because of mass air movement (weather patterns). And how about ground water pollution? Once that happens, the only way to clean it is to wait for decades...and Bush has made it quite a bit easier to pollute our ground water. The way I see it there are two stances on this issue: -you feel that the environment is being depleated too quickly and it needs legislation to help it or -you don't care about the future, the planet, or your children's health and are in love with Bush's other polices so you feel justified in ignoring the environment.
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
The way I see it there are two stances on this issue: -you feel that the environment is being depleated too quickly and it needs legislation to help it or -you don't care about the future, the planet, or your children's health and are in love with Bush's other polices so you feel justified in ignoring the environment.
Exactly, some care and others don't. In both camps there are a lot of people content with soundbites, rather than science.
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