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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Like I thought, despite all of your bloviating about upcoming trials- and after 5 whole years of this "war on terra" the answer is no, there have not been ANY convictions.
Dude, I gave you names in my last post! Half of those guys were convicted to 20 years or life right here in the US and some still face trial. The 9/11 guy with a life sentence is Moussaoui. I forgot to add him: http://greensickle.com/2006/05/mouss...ght_resul.html
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by psoper
anyone who would forgo their liberty in exchange for security deserves, and will receive neither.
Even though going through the proper channels probably takes longer, was there a reason to be nondeserving of security simply because Bush put in an express lane?

Benjamin Franklin was the man but I hate this "in exchange for deserves nothing" crap. I'm glad Bush isn't going to reauthorize just because i'm a "by the book" type of guy. But you can have effective unpopular security measures and not expect to live in an Orwell novel. This is especially true considering the intentions are to catch madmen and not create some type of police state just because.

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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
Details are still secret but US CT units did infiltrate cells. It's also fact that UK and American CT units had them on tap for a long time, etc. But you may not be willing to count that one.
Don't take this the wrong way but if details are still secret then how do you know?

I'm just wondering if you have access to some uber-secret military blog that contains some intel that we ordinary joes don't hear/see.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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The idea isn't that far fetched. Cells have been infiltrated, some by numerous countries at one time. But you're right I suppose. Then again, I still proves psoper is smoking crack once again. There have been some convictions. Just goes to show you that some people chose to believe Bush's admin is far worse than it truly is.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
The idea isn't that far fetched. Cells have been infiltrated, some by numerous countries at one time. But you're right I suppose. Then again, I still proves psoper is smoking crack once again. There have been some convictions. Just goes to show you that some people chose to believe Bush's admin is far worse than it truly is.
It is definately possible and for god's sake I hope you are right. I just thought you knew something more than some of us. And yes you were right about the convictions.
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