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DOT 3 & 4 are made from Ethylene Glycol and is hydroscopic (loves water). Dot 4 has reduced attraction to water and a higher wet and dry boiling point. Because of the attraction to water they should be changed every two years on a sttreet car. Watch for a change in color which indicates the amount of water absorbed. The darker the more water. Ethylene Glycol is a conductive fluid and the conductivity increases as the water content increases. In a system with unlike metals this electrolics causes corrosion!
Dot 5 is Silicone based. to become a DOT brake fluid they have an additive to absorb a small ammount of water, about 1%, to avoid a problem with freezing or boiling. This moisture is driven off when the system heats up. Silicone is not conductive and is a better lubricant than Glycol, so less wear. Cartel, the brand I use, has not been able to tell me how DOT 5 works with Anti Loc brake systems. (I will use DOT 4 in my Impreza Sport until that question is settled) Silicone is less dense than Glycol and could possibly cause confusion in an Anti Loc system. It is true that DOT 5 has a higher wet & dry boiling point. If you are having a problen boiling fresh, quality, DOT 4 fluid (Ate, Motul, AP, etc.) then you probibly need to look at your brake system and air flow for the problem.
I have used DOT 5 very succesfully for over 25 years in many different vehicles. It stopped the problem of rapid wear and corrosion in the hydraulics on my MG's and Mini's, and just reduced wear and maintance on my BMW and Dodge tow truck.
Tom Bishop, Auto Sport Gallery, Raleigh, NC
Dot 5 is Silicone based. to become a DOT brake fluid they have an additive to absorb a small ammount of water, about 1%, to avoid a problem with freezing or boiling. This moisture is driven off when the system heats up. Silicone is not conductive and is a better lubricant than Glycol, so less wear. Cartel, the brand I use, has not been able to tell me how DOT 5 works with Anti Loc brake systems. (I will use DOT 4 in my Impreza Sport until that question is settled) Silicone is less dense than Glycol and could possibly cause confusion in an Anti Loc system. It is true that DOT 5 has a higher wet & dry boiling point. If you are having a problen boiling fresh, quality, DOT 4 fluid (Ate, Motul, AP, etc.) then you probibly need to look at your brake system and air flow for the problem.
I have used DOT 5 very succesfully for over 25 years in many different vehicles. It stopped the problem of rapid wear and corrosion in the hydraulics on my MG's and Mini's, and just reduced wear and maintance on my BMW and Dodge tow truck.
Tom Bishop, Auto Sport Gallery, Raleigh, NC
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There is a lot of brake info here:
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1122
Down the page specific info on fluid.
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1122
Down the page specific info on fluid.
I have a Rotora 4-pot kit and i had the damdis of to keep it pressurized every hard stop I did I would loose pedal fill till I bled theh againe an againe till I put in MOTUL 5.1 .Pedel fill is very very sharp at the slites tap my WRX STOPS and with less ABS kicking in,an we all know that the WRX's ABS aint worth crap!
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Who sells these around here. I live in the East Coast and can't seem to find them.
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DOT 5 is more compressable than DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 fluids and will hurt your pedal feel. In addition, DOT 5 is incompatible with DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 fluids. There is absolutely no reason to be using DOT 5 in your street car.
While Ford HD fluid is indeed inexpensive and has a high boiling point, it absorbs water VERY quickly and will soon be operating at it's wet boiling point. So you will have to flush it (not bleed it) much more often.
If your car isn't on the track, the autoparts store off the shelf brand name fluids will be fine. Trackers will want something with a higher boiling point such as Motul, ATE, etc.
I've used Castrol SRF almost exclusively in our racecar. While it is expensive up front, it really does not like water and does not absorb much of it. It's wet boiling point is in the range of the other fluids dry boiling point. I don't bleed my brakes at all throughout an entire racing season. It works out cheaper for me because I waste less time on flushing the brakes and buying more brake fluid.
Gary
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While Ford HD fluid is indeed inexpensive and has a high boiling point, it absorbs water VERY quickly and will soon be operating at it's wet boiling point. So you will have to flush it (not bleed it) much more often.
If your car isn't on the track, the autoparts store off the shelf brand name fluids will be fine. Trackers will want something with a higher boiling point such as Motul, ATE, etc.
I've used Castrol SRF almost exclusively in our racecar. While it is expensive up front, it really does not like water and does not absorb much of it. It's wet boiling point is in the range of the other fluids dry boiling point. I don't bleed my brakes at all throughout an entire racing season. It works out cheaper for me because I waste less time on flushing the brakes and buying more brake fluid.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
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