Crash!!!
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Your friend ****ed you because he wanted to hot dog in your car don't be naive. I drive like an absolute animal in the rain. I'm more aggressive in the rain because it's so fun to drive.
I drive my car in the snow with the stock tires on it and i haven't crashed yet. If i was you i'd go through the insurance company then immediately sell the car for what i could then buy a new one. New vehicles are never the same after frame damage no matter who fixes them unless they are extremely good and have good equipment even then i wouldn't want the car any more.
I drive my car in the snow with the stock tires on it and i haven't crashed yet. If i was you i'd go through the insurance company then immediately sell the car for what i could then buy a new one. New vehicles are never the same after frame damage no matter who fixes them unless they are extremely good and have good equipment even then i wouldn't want the car any more.
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I had a back to the future wheel on a past car. 89 yr old lady drove straight into the side of my parked car. There was no frame damage because the wheel and suspension acted like a cushion, lol sort of.
If your friend is a GOOD friend and you trust him, just tell him to fork over what he can and you'll spot him the rest. Then he can pay you back. Maybe he has something you could hold in the meantime. The only way I would do aftermarket stuff was if I did the same to ALL four corners. Good-Luck
If your friend is a GOOD friend and you trust him, just tell him to fork over what he can and you'll spot him the rest. Then he can pay you back. Maybe he has something you could hold in the meantime. The only way I would do aftermarket stuff was if I did the same to ALL four corners. Good-Luck
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Here's my 2 cents,
Having experienced 2 accidents, one involving a front left tire jumping up on a curb (and the car trying to follow it), I might have something to offer. I looked at the accident and thought, hey, thats not so bad! Wrong. The entire front left part of the suspention need to be replaced. It wasn't even a very high speed collision, however, my Sentra SE-R suspension isn't designed for climbing curbs. It looked like just the tire and the quarter panel was damaged, but due to the quarter panel blowing out and the tire, it damaged the surrounding parts as well, including paint cracks on the bumper and overstressed the hood. Long story short, my little accident at 20mph turned into a several thousand dollar deal with the insurance involved yada yada.
Now, from an engineering perspective. Because of the sudden jolt and angular stress put on the front left part of the frame (and since the frame's connected, most of the entire frame), my frame will literally never be the same. My college buddy is a Mechanical Engineer with a metallurgy background, and he has told me how impacts, unless the metal and structure is designed to handle it, permanently weaken the structure. Another long story short is, you may not have any visible damage, but in one way or another, your frame is most likely not as strong as it was when it rolled out of the factory. How strong is impossible to tell without a stress test or someone who is very knowledgeable about car accidents (Industry crash test scientists, for instance.) I had big plans for my SE-R, but due to the high mileage and permanent frame damage, I've decided not to mod it and instead drive it until it wears out.
I don't mean to tell you what to do or sound arrogant, just to share experience. Unless you've had the car looked at (read: torn apart) by an experienced adjuster, you probably do not know the full extent of what it would cost to fix it, including labor. I tend to agree that it will be rather expensive, somewhere between $5000 and $10000. My suggestion is to bite the bullet, get the insurance involved, and suggest to your friend that he pays you the difference on your insurance premiums if they go up. Its not a perfect solution, but it sounds right from what I know. Good Luck man.
Having experienced 2 accidents, one involving a front left tire jumping up on a curb (and the car trying to follow it), I might have something to offer. I looked at the accident and thought, hey, thats not so bad! Wrong. The entire front left part of the suspention need to be replaced. It wasn't even a very high speed collision, however, my Sentra SE-R suspension isn't designed for climbing curbs. It looked like just the tire and the quarter panel was damaged, but due to the quarter panel blowing out and the tire, it damaged the surrounding parts as well, including paint cracks on the bumper and overstressed the hood. Long story short, my little accident at 20mph turned into a several thousand dollar deal with the insurance involved yada yada.
Now, from an engineering perspective. Because of the sudden jolt and angular stress put on the front left part of the frame (and since the frame's connected, most of the entire frame), my frame will literally never be the same. My college buddy is a Mechanical Engineer with a metallurgy background, and he has told me how impacts, unless the metal and structure is designed to handle it, permanently weaken the structure. Another long story short is, you may not have any visible damage, but in one way or another, your frame is most likely not as strong as it was when it rolled out of the factory. How strong is impossible to tell without a stress test or someone who is very knowledgeable about car accidents (Industry crash test scientists, for instance.) I had big plans for my SE-R, but due to the high mileage and permanent frame damage, I've decided not to mod it and instead drive it until it wears out.
I don't mean to tell you what to do or sound arrogant, just to share experience. Unless you've had the car looked at (read: torn apart) by an experienced adjuster, you probably do not know the full extent of what it would cost to fix it, including labor. I tend to agree that it will be rather expensive, somewhere between $5000 and $10000. My suggestion is to bite the bullet, get the insurance involved, and suggest to your friend that he pays you the difference on your insurance premiums if they go up. Its not a perfect solution, but it sounds right from what I know. Good Luck man.
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