no wrx for me
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I think that at 17, you might be mature enough to have a WRX. Then again, maybe not. I don't know you. I don't know you're attitude or aptitude, your personality or upbringing. Maybe your parents see something in you they don't like as far as your attitude or aptitude. My experience shows me that at that age, the maturity level needed to responsibly handle such a vehicle is usually not there.
Also, speaking as an adult who has been driving for over 20 years and has a very clean record, I find that seeing a young person driving around in a new BMW, Suby, Lexus or the like, is just another sign of the way our society is going. The kids holler and scream 'I want, I want' and the parents just give them what they want because they don't want to hear their kids bit**ing and complaining.
All it boils down to is maturity and responsibility. If you show that you can handle yourself responsibly with another vehicle, then a change of heart may happen.
My first car was a '76 Mercury Monarch, 3 speed and 138k on it. I bought it from my dad for a buck. I took care of it and eventually bought a newer car. But I showed my parents that I was responsible.
Also, speaking as an adult who has been driving for over 20 years and has a very clean record, I find that seeing a young person driving around in a new BMW, Suby, Lexus or the like, is just another sign of the way our society is going. The kids holler and scream 'I want, I want' and the parents just give them what they want because they don't want to hear their kids bit**ing and complaining.
All it boils down to is maturity and responsibility. If you show that you can handle yourself responsibly with another vehicle, then a change of heart may happen.
My first car was a '76 Mercury Monarch, 3 speed and 138k on it. I bought it from my dad for a buck. I took care of it and eventually bought a newer car. But I showed my parents that I was responsible.
Re: Nonsense!
Originally posted by DannyB
Now you're just being silly! I bought my WRX used, with 15,000 miles. Knocked 5,000 off the price.
Be patient, and start looking for a used one. Now that the STIs are out, people are trading in their WRXs like crazy!
Patience, focus, long-term thinking are what separates a warrior from a mere flailing fighter. -Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars episodes 7,8, and 9
Now you're just being silly! I bought my WRX used, with 15,000 miles. Knocked 5,000 off the price.
Be patient, and start looking for a used one. Now that the STIs are out, people are trading in their WRXs like crazy!
Patience, focus, long-term thinking are what separates a warrior from a mere flailing fighter. -Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars episodes 7,8, and 9
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...Oh and the whole 'Older car, more problems' argument doesn't hold water. (at least in my book)
1> older cars have depreciated and can be had for less.
2> older cars, if they are going to break down, will have usually done so by the time you buy it.
3> older cars already have the 'bugs' worked out of them and should run fine.
I give you my example. I purchased a used car about 9 years ago for about $4k. Since that time, the car has been paid for, I have put only ~$3k into it as far as repairs. (this does NOT count routine maintenance) I have put over 90k miles on it and it still runs. It has 196k miles on it and STILL has the original clutch, and I am not a relaxed driver. All told, for about $7k, I have had a car that has gone 9+ years, 90k plus miles, gets good mileage (26-30 mpg) and still runs well. Will you be able to say that after spending better than $20k on a WRX? And I got this from a car that was rated 'AVOID' by Consumer Reports, a 1988 Escort GT.
So, a good used car can be had for alot less than a new one and will give you alot of good years of driving if you take care of it.
Hope you get something you like.
Finn
1> older cars have depreciated and can be had for less.
2> older cars, if they are going to break down, will have usually done so by the time you buy it.
3> older cars already have the 'bugs' worked out of them and should run fine.
I give you my example. I purchased a used car about 9 years ago for about $4k. Since that time, the car has been paid for, I have put only ~$3k into it as far as repairs. (this does NOT count routine maintenance) I have put over 90k miles on it and it still runs. It has 196k miles on it and STILL has the original clutch, and I am not a relaxed driver. All told, for about $7k, I have had a car that has gone 9+ years, 90k plus miles, gets good mileage (26-30 mpg) and still runs well. Will you be able to say that after spending better than $20k on a WRX? And I got this from a car that was rated 'AVOID' by Consumer Reports, a 1988 Escort GT.
So, a good used car can be had for alot less than a new one and will give you alot of good years of driving if you take care of it.
Hope you get something you like.
Finn
Thats cool and that may work, but not all cases. As I said earlier my truck runs fine now. But when I got my truck, 4 months after getting it I had to replace water pump, a month later I needed to replace the Computer, then a few months later I needed to have the engine rebuilt. By the end of that year I needed a new radiator and some suspension fixes. When we bought the truck it looked and ran perfectly. The guy we bought it from told us what had needed to be fixed and that he had replaced it. After about a year I had spent over $3000 on a truck I had spent $2500 on. Sure I only spent $5500 that first year as opposed to the cost of a new car, but that truck sure did not have the luxuries of a new car and it was not nice being stranded out in San Diego (about 100 miles from home), having to call someone for a ride at 1:00 am or being stuck in L.A. (another 100+ miles from home). Besides your not going to find any 227hp+ AWD cars that are about 10 years old.
I know that in your book the old car thing works but I thought I would just put something on the other side of the story. My neighbor had a late 80's Escort or Tempo and she thought that was the biggest mistake she had ever made.
I know that in your book the old car thing works but I thought I would just put something on the other side of the story. My neighbor had a late 80's Escort or Tempo and she thought that was the biggest mistake she had ever made.
no but you can have a 165hp car that is only 2 or 3 years old. I test drove the wrx the other day and I was not that impressed with it as much as I thought I would be. Lets just say it made me love my car even more.
Actually, I was starting to think how much of a good car a subaru is for newer drivers (if being new to the road is the question.) The Subaru actually scores high on safety tests, the way the boxer engine is built, front impacts cause the engine to move away from the driver. The AWD is a benefit if you are travelling in foul weather. Back in February I was surrounded by a car pile up and the only reason I didnt get hit (was raining btw) was because I was able to react and swerve out of the way of an airborne street sweeper (why he was on the fwy i have no idea). When it all stopped I was surrounded by a ring of bruised up cars and my subie, unscathed. Your right, maybe not a WRX but a 2.5RS. I don't know much about the GC8's but as far as I know most or all Subarus are pretty safe cars.
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Originally posted by WRX-pilot
Actually, I was starting to think how much of a good car a subaru is for newer drivers (if being new to the road is the question.) The Subaru actually scores high on safety tests, the way the boxer engine is built, front impacts cause the engine to move away from the driver. The AWD is a benefit if you are travelling in foul weather. Back in February I was surrounded by a car pile up and the only reason I didnt get hit (was raining btw) was because I was able to react and swerve out of the way of an airborne street sweeper (why he was on the fwy i have no idea). When it all stopped I was surrounded by a ring of bruised up cars and my subie, unscathed. Your right, maybe not a WRX but a 2.5RS. I don't know much about the GC8's but as far as I know most or all Subarus are pretty safe cars.
Actually, I was starting to think how much of a good car a subaru is for newer drivers (if being new to the road is the question.) The Subaru actually scores high on safety tests, the way the boxer engine is built, front impacts cause the engine to move away from the driver. The AWD is a benefit if you are travelling in foul weather. Back in February I was surrounded by a car pile up and the only reason I didnt get hit (was raining btw) was because I was able to react and swerve out of the way of an airborne street sweeper (why he was on the fwy i have no idea). When it all stopped I was surrounded by a ring of bruised up cars and my subie, unscathed. Your right, maybe not a WRX but a 2.5RS. I don't know much about the GC8's but as far as I know most or all Subarus are pretty safe cars.
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I give you my example. I purchased a used car about 9 years ago for about $4k. Since that time, the car has been paid for, I have put only ~$3k into it as far as repairs. (this does NOT count routine maintenance) I have put over 90k miles on it and it still runs. It has 196k miles on it and STILL has the original clutch, and I am not a relaxed driver. All told, for about $7k, I have had a car that has gone 9+ years, 90k plus miles, gets good mileage (26-30 mpg) and still runs well. Will you be able to say that after spending better than $20k on a WRX? And I got this from a car that was rated 'AVOID' by Consumer Reports, a 1988 Escort GT.
I haven't gotten a WRX yet, but I hope the experience will be better!
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Parents and your car
Why should your parents be any part of equation? I'm sick of reading about the i-club members parents wishes. Here's what I did. Got a Toyoya truck in 1999. Saved money, bought what I could afford, and afford to INSURE. Late 2001, started saving for a WRX. Worked full time, read everything I could find on this amazing new Suby. After about 14 months, I had 10K saved. Researched WRX prices and options. [Edmunds.com or new car.com]. Talked to the owner of the local dealership.[Irvine Subaru]. Told them what I wanted. [Silver REX, right off the truck, NO DEMO MILES] Went to dealership in Nov, 2002, put my 10K and my Toyota as down payment. Thats 19K down payment. Financed the rest. My monthly payment is 171.00. Now I can afford to INSURE the car and by mods. I know this is REALLY boring! Welcome to being financially responsible. Its taken me a long time to mature. I've declared BK in the past, buying stuff I couldn't afford. Years of barely making it, cause I just had to have something shiney and new. Whatever. Don't make the same mistakes I did. See you on the road. Sincerely, Collins
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Re: no wrx for me
Originally posted by GDB_Dragun
Unfortunatly I won't be getting a WRX. I am 17 and I was going to pay the mothly payments and have my parents pay the down payment but my dad just told me that he doesn't want me to drive a "new" car. All this research on the WRX for nothing. This was about 3pm this afternoon and its 7.30 now so i calmed down because i was P I S S E D. I might just have to settle for an integra type r or a 240sx and go for a sr20det swap. Since this might be my last thread in this forum which one do you guys think i should go with?? Thanks for any input and even though i never met anyof you except a very few, you were all helpfull. C ya.
Unfortunatly I won't be getting a WRX. I am 17 and I was going to pay the mothly payments and have my parents pay the down payment but my dad just told me that he doesn't want me to drive a "new" car. All this research on the WRX for nothing. This was about 3pm this afternoon and its 7.30 now so i calmed down because i was P I S S E D. I might just have to settle for an integra type r or a 240sx and go for a sr20det swap. Since this might be my last thread in this forum which one do you guys think i should go with?? Thanks for any input and even though i never met anyof you except a very few, you were all helpfull. C ya.
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Re: Parents and your car
Originally posted by Collins
Why should your parents be any part of equation? I'm sick of reading about the i-club members parents wishes. Here's what I did. Got a Toyoya truck in 1999. Saved money, bought what I could afford, and afford to INSURE. Late 2001, started saving for a WRX. Worked full time, read everything I could find on this amazing new Suby. After about 14 months, I had 10K saved. Researched WRX prices and options. [Edmunds.com or new car.com]. Talked to the owner of the local dealership.[Irvine Subaru]. Told them what I wanted. [Silver REX, right off the truck, NO DEMO MILES] Went to dealership in Nov, 2002, put my 10K and my Toyota as down payment. Thats 19K down payment. Financed the rest. My monthly payment is 171.00. Now I can afford to INSURE the car and by mods. I know this is REALLY boring! Welcome to being financially responsible. Its taken me a long time to mature. I've declared BK in the past, buying stuff I couldn't afford. Years of barely making it, cause I just had to have something shiney and new. Whatever. Don't make the same mistakes I did. See you on the road. Sincerely, Collins
Why should your parents be any part of equation? I'm sick of reading about the i-club members parents wishes. Here's what I did. Got a Toyoya truck in 1999. Saved money, bought what I could afford, and afford to INSURE. Late 2001, started saving for a WRX. Worked full time, read everything I could find on this amazing new Suby. After about 14 months, I had 10K saved. Researched WRX prices and options. [Edmunds.com or new car.com]. Talked to the owner of the local dealership.[Irvine Subaru]. Told them what I wanted. [Silver REX, right off the truck, NO DEMO MILES] Went to dealership in Nov, 2002, put my 10K and my Toyota as down payment. Thats 19K down payment. Financed the rest. My monthly payment is 171.00. Now I can afford to INSURE the car and by mods. I know this is REALLY boring! Welcome to being financially responsible. Its taken me a long time to mature. I've declared BK in the past, buying stuff I couldn't afford. Years of barely making it, cause I just had to have something shiney and new. Whatever. Don't make the same mistakes I did. See you on the road. Sincerely, Collins
Re: Captain Trash talk
Originally posted by Captain Trash
I think you should stop being a spoiled little brat and be grateful for what you have. Oh no, you're not getting what you want for doing absolutely nothing to earn it?!?!?!
I think you should stop being a spoiled little brat and be grateful for what you have. Oh no, you're not getting what you want for doing absolutely nothing to earn it?!?!?!


